Extra staff tackle Oyster failure
Not a technical support thread: it's a cross-posted news item (BBC story) about the July 2008 London Underground Oyster card outage, in which the system was down for about five hours and roughly 65,000 cards were corrupted or incurred maximum fares, prompting extra staff, free travel, card replacements and automatic refunds. TfL had launched an investigation but no cause is given. Regulars dismissed the post as off-topic trolling and the thread degenerated into shellfish puns, so no technical explanation or resolution is recorded.
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Extra London Underground staff were drafted in after a breakdown in the Oyster card system left thousands of people needing replacement cards. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7504734.stm About 65,000 cards were corrupted and stopped working when they were swiped during technical problems on Saturday. Tube workers handed out replacement cards and to prevent long queues some passengers travelled free of charge. Transport for London (TfL) said by lunchtime on Monday more than 30,000 affected cards had been replaced. Automatic refund A TfL spokesman said: "The vast majority of passengers have travelled without any disruption this morning and London Underground staff have minimised the delay to passengers with cards that are not working. "We are replacing affected cards and there are now less than 35,000 cards that need to be replaced. "Ticket offices are well stocked and we advise those passengers who have not yet replaced their cards to go to their nearest LU ticket office throughout today." The Oyster card system was inoperable for at least five hours on Saturday and some 65,000 cards used during that time stopped working or incurred a fine. All passengers who incurred a maximum fare or fine as a result of the fault will be given an automatic refund from Tuesday. The cards are used as payment on buses, Tube, tram and the Docklands Light Railway. Passengers touch the electronic card on the reader on entry or exit to a station, or when entering a bus. An investigation has been launched into the problem and TfL is expected to release a statement later this week.
disgusting things.... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the causes, marine environmental experts said. Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer after China, Japan and South Korea." -- web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick. good people do nothing [] trust actions not words only when it's funny -- roger rabbit --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
abelard said: > > > disgusting things.... Nothing I like more than munching on a juicy bearded clam! -- Bye now, Obnoxio http://obotheclown.blogspot.com/
Tronic wrote: > Extra London Underground staff were drafted in after a breakdown in Oh do fuck off there's a good troll.
On Jul 14, 9:39 pm, "malc" <malunspamwh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Tronic wrote: > > Extra London Underground staff were drafted in after a breakdown in > > Oh do fuck off there's a good troll. i try to remain professional i have professional ethics.
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> wrote: >From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 Jul >2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>disgusting things.... >> >>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>"Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>causes, marine environmental experts said. >> >>Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>after China, Japan and South Korea." >So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was >reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the dearth, >the amount of oyster per card has become too little........ that seems to me a very promising hypothesis regards -- web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick. good people do nothing [] trust actions not words only when it's funny -- roger rabbit --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> > wrote: > >> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : > >>> disgusting things.... >>> >>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>> >>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >> >> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was >> reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the >> dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too little........ > > that seems to me a very promising hypothesis It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? -- The roads crawled in all directions like crayfish poured out of a bag. < Gogol
mimus wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >> wrote: >> >>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >> >>>> disgusting things.... >>>> >>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>> >>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >>> >>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>> little........ >> >> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis > > It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? Is that why it clammed up?
John of Aix said: > mimus wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >>>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>> >>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>> >>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>> >>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>> >>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>> little........ >>> >>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >> >> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? > > Is that why it clammed up? Can we please stop with all the off-topic bullshit? You guys are just being shellfish and it's making me crabby. -- Bye now, Obnoxio http://obotheclown.blogspot.com/
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:11 +0200, John of Aix wrote: > mimus wrote: > >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >>>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>> >>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>> >>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>> >>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>> >>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>> little........ >>> >>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >> >> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? > > Is that why it clammed up? I bet they're going to have to shell out a bundle. -- When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a new entity has come into being--the system itself. No matter what the "goal" of the system, it immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that is, to act according to the general laws that govern the operation of all systems. Now the system itself has to be dealt with. < _Systemantics_
mimus wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:11 +0200, John of Aix wrote: > >> mimus wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE >>>> <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, >>>>> 14 Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>>> >>>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand >>>>>> the causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest >>>>>> producer after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>>> >>>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>>> little........ >>>> >>>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >>> >>> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? >> >> Is that why it clammed up? > > I bet they're going to have to shell out a bundle. Once it's been winkled out of them
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > John of Aix said: >> mimus wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >>>>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>>>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>>>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>>> little........ >>>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >>> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? >> Is that why it clammed up? > > Can we please stop with all the off-topic bullshit? You guys are just > being shellfish and it's making me crabby. > I think the whole story is just a big bluff (kudos and kia ora to anyone that gets that one)
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:56:26 +0200, "John of Aix" <j.murphy@libertysurf.fr> wrote: >mimus wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:11 +0200, John of Aix wrote: >> >>> mimus wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE >>>>> <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, >>>>>> 14 Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>>>> >>>>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand >>>>>>> the causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest >>>>>>> producer after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>>>> >>>>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>>>> little........ >>>>> >>>>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >>>> >>>> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? >>> >>> Is that why it clammed up? >> >> I bet they're going to have to shell out a bundle. > >Once it's been winkled out of them molluscs! -- web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick. good people do nothing [] trust actions not words only when it's funny -- roger rabbit --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Townsend wrote: > Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >> John of Aix said: >>> mimus wrote: >>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 >>>>>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 : >>>>>>> disgusting things.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>>>>> causes, marine environmental experts said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>>>>> after China, Japan and South Korea." >>>>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that >>>>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due >>>>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too >>>>>> little........ >>>>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis >>>> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel? >>> Is that why it clammed up? >> >> Can we please stop with all the off-topic bullshit? You guys are just >> being shellfish and it's making me crabby. >> > I think the whole story is just a big bluff > > (kudos and kia ora to anyone that gets that one) Pick one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluff I'd bet on my antipodes... the kiwis...
In message <u0rn74985f6rjoa2f34qih98oct1k0u26c@4ax.com>, abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> writes >On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@today.net> >wrote: > >>From abelard <abelard3@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 Jul >>2008 22:22:26 +0200 : > >>>disgusting things.... >>> >>>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_h >>>it_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms >>>"Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much >>>higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the >>>causes, marine environmental experts said. >>> >>>Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces >>>130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer >>>after China, Japan and South Korea." > >>So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was >>reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the dearth, >>the amount of oyster per card has become too little........ > >that seems to me a very promising hypothesis Or could it just have been a bit of grit? -- < Paul >