RE: New Informix packaging and, presumably, pricing
Again, Interesting. Its an open door for companies like Home Depot to use this on their store servers to support their local inventory control and POS activities. (Stops the uptake of MySQL in to these customers.) If this is true, it shows that IBM's IM execs recognize the fact that they are losing business to what some believe are lower cost options. Does it hurt the bottom line in terms of revenue? Sure but less if the customer takes up MySQL. The other thing that is interesting is the Mac OS/X version. Notice the difference in what is included and what is not? ;-) But what do I know? ;-) From: aford@networkip.net To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: New Informix packaging and, presumably, pricing Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:13:54 -0500 It sure is. "Need a free database? Download Informix now. Free to develop, free to deploy" Cool! The IBM License Information documents for Innovator-C and Ultimate-C have this language: 1) IBM Base License This Program has been provided to Licensee at no charge. This License Information serves as Licensee's Proof of Entitlement (PoE). Innovator-C is available for all platforms (? - platform availability link sends me to Informix Dynamic Server, not Innovator-C so I'm not 100% sure) and has the following limitations: Maximum 1 Physical CPU, 4 cores total Maximum 2 GB of memory to Informix (SHMTOTAL <= 2097152) Maximum of 2 ER admin nodes (does this mean unlimited ER nodes but a max of 2 nodes can hold the global catalog?) MACH11 can be 1 Primary and either 1 HDR Secondary or 1 RSS node, secondaries can be writable Can not use the following features: DBSpace Prioritization during backup/restore Recovery Time Objective Policy Private Memory Cache for VP Direct I/O for Cooked Files I-STAR Parallel query High Performance Loader Parallel index build Parallel backup/restore Table/Index/DBSpace partitioning Column level encryption Compression (e.g., the Storage Optimization Feature) Advanced Access Control (Label based access control) Last commit concurrency Multiple triggers and views Web feature service Node DataBlade Auto-gather statistics during index build Point-in-time table recovery SQL Warehouse (SQW) Shared Disk Secondary (SDS) The only things that bum me out are the lack of PDQ, partitioning (is fragmentation OK?) and RTO_SERVER_RESTART (have to use CKPTINTVL), but I can't really complain. ER and HDR in a free version of Informix that can be used in production is pretty sweet. Ultimate-C is available on Windows and Mac OS X Maximum 4 Physical CPUs, 16 cores total Maximum 16 GB Memory to Informix MACH11 can be 1 Primary and either 1 HDR Secondary or 1 RSS node, secondaries can be writable Can not use the following features: Compression SDS nodes Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Fernando Nunes To: IIUG Informix List Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:31 AM Subject: Re: New Informix packaging and, presumably, pricing Website is updated! Regards. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Fernando Nunes <domusonline@gmail.com> wrote: There are restrictions on the features and on the resources. But there are two "*-C" editions which can be downloaded and used without costs (Support is available as a separate offer) In general, with all new versions you'll get more for less. I believe this is going to be a long thread... :) Regards. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Cesar Inacio Martins <cesar_inacio_martins@yahoo.com.br> wrote: More info about the limits, check the links bellow. http://www-142.ibm.com/software/products/nz/en/infoinnocedit/ http://www-03.ibm.com/software/sla/sladb.nsf/searchlis/?searchview&searchorder=4&searchmax=0&query=%28informix%29and%28field+gadate%3E2010/05/01%29 Keep attention to resources limits for this versions... a lot of resources aren't permitted, but....... it's for free! And I not found anything saying : "not permitted use for production environment" ... --- Em ter, 25/5/10, Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@serendipita.com> escreveu: De: Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@serendipita.com> Assunto: New Informix packaging and, presumably, pricing Para: "IIUG Informix List" <informix-list@iiug.org> Data: Terça-feira, 25 de Maio de 2010, 11:14 http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP10-0238 Bloody hell! -- Cheers, Obnoxio The Clown http://obotheclown.blogspot.com I will now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. 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>> "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gumby@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:mailman.240.1274817693.1071.informix-list@iiug.org... >> Interesting. >> Its an open door for companies like Home Depot to use this on their store >> servers to support their local inventory control and POS activities. >> (Stops the uptake of MySQL in to these customers.) I think they've taken the trouble to listen to reseller/ISV concerns, and this is indeed one of them.
On May 26, 12:46 pm, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > >> "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:mailman.240.1274817693.1071.informix-list@iiug.org... > >> Interesting. > >> Its an open door for companies like Home Depot to use this on their store > >> servers to support their local inventory control and POS activities. > >> (Stops the uptake of MySQL in to these customers.) > > I think they've taken the trouble to listen to reseller/ISV concerns, and > this is indeed one of them. Well, what I find interesting is that they took this change in tactics. For far too many years IBM hasn't paid attention, so why the shift. The key isn't that they want to grow the business, but that they wanted to stop the hemorrhaging. Oh I know what you're thinking. Gumby is yet again saying doom and gloom. I'm not. I'm saying that if you look around you, large companies are looking towards lower cost alternatives. For the cost of just the licenses for an 8 core xeon box of IDS Enterprise Edition, you can buy and build out a cloud of 10 data nodes running hadoop. (Each node w 4 2TB drives for approx 35TB of raw storage.) While Hadoop/HBase isn't going to replace the traditional RDBMS, it will be used as an adjunct system for analysis and in some instances it can supplant a Relational Engine. *YMMV! The point is that even IBM is recognizing that customers are defecting from the IBM brand, so they are forced to change their tactics and views. I really do welcome the change, however, I think that its not only too little too late, but also didn't go far enough in certain areas.