RE: Best Linux distro for Cheetah (and also the older versions...)

>From: "Jean Georges Perrin" <jgp@jgp.net> >Hi, > > > >We are planning to squeeze our Cheetah on Windows for a set of virtual >systems on Linux. The core system is running Ubuntu and all the virtualized >systems will be Linux's. It works fine, I have installed Cheetah on the >Ubuntu box and here starts problems. DB-Access complains about terminal. We >cannot connect to the server with Java (there is no firewall). > > > >So after all, I wonder if Ubuntu is a great distro for Cheetah. > > > >What would you recommend? What are you guys using? > > > >Thanks > I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to do a JDBC connection because there is no firewall. I'm also not sure by what you mean by virtualizing your servers. So you have X windows boxes and you want to replace them with Y linux servers such that it looks like there are X linux servers. (Lets say 10 windows boxes and replace them with 2 linux servers which will have 5 virtual servers each.) Ok... So what happens when you want to connect via TCP/IP? Does each virtual server have a seperate port for connecting front end applications? (I'm not sure that this is a viable architecture.) With respect to Linux versions, I like and have been running SuSE. I started using SuSE many versions ago since it had a better install interface that RedHat. If you're looking for a version of Linux where you can get support, SuSE's enterprise version may be the best answer. Marty Laurie ?sp? likes Ubuntu beause it has better wireless support. Timmy likes it because it has a better release mechanism. Of course I'm now a bad person because I'm not bothered by Novell's deal with the devil. ;-) -Mikey _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play now'it's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1

Actually, I like 3 of the distros out there, not sure which one I like better. My short list is SuSE 10.2, Fedora Core 7, and Ubuntu 7.04, not in any order. The key to understanding these releases is indeed the update process, because this can mean your company either pays for automagic update capability or you pick the right distro that does it either automatic or semi-automatic for FREE. Why pay for updates when you can get them for free? I can set up a RedHat ES or AS installation with apt-get for RPM and point to CentOS repositories and get the updates for free, which is significant if you are a big RedHat shop and pay a lot of money for subscriptions for these versions. Fedora Core is essentially the same release, for free. Set up the updates, and you have the same system as something that can cost $1000 or more per year for the same RPMs. As far as update capabilities, Ubuntu = Debian, which has the best, and I'm still learning how a lot of their stuff works. But Fedora has yum installed, which is similar. I think SuSE is at the bottom of the list on updates, but they have a really solid release otherwise, and like I said you can get apt-get for RPM systems. Synaptic, the GUI used in Ubuntu/Debian is also available for RPM systems, taking some of the dread out of dependency management. I went to Ubuntu after not being happy with SuSE 10.0/1, and then found myself having to work with RedHat with my client. The whole concept of update capability is really improving, and may force a lot of third-party vendors to move in line with more of a repository approach towards their updates. Linux vendors know they have to get something better than RPM, or at the very least improve their wrappers around RPM just to manage change as good as Debian-based systems. Most of the new Linux distros take the Debian release because of its superior update process, and the fact that there are templates available to roll-your-own distro based on Debian. Nobody I know is running out and really trying to build a new RPM-based system simply because it's so clunky and not as capable. Incidentally, you should check out VirtualBox, www.virtualbox.org, who distribute a very nice VM for FREE!! that does indeed work as well as VMware. I've got it working nicely on a Fedora Core 7 machine, and am not sure why I'd buy VMware in the future. -t- Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > >> From: "Jean Georges Perrin" <jgp@jgp.net> > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> We are planning to squeeze our Cheetah on Windows for a set of virtual >> systems on Linux. The core system is running Ubuntu and all the >> virtualized >> systems will be Linux's. It works fine, I have installed Cheetah on the >> Ubuntu box and here starts problems. DB-Access complains about >> terminal. We >> cannot connect to the server with Java (there is no firewall). >> >> >> >> So after all, I wonder if Ubuntu is a great distro for Cheetah. >> >> >> >> What would you recommend? What are you guys using? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> > > I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to do a JDBC connection > because there is no firewall. > > I'm also not sure by what you mean by virtualizing your servers. > > So you have X windows boxes and you want to replace them with Y linux > servers such that it looks like there are X linux servers. (Lets say 10 > windows boxes and replace them with 2 linux servers which will have 5 > virtual servers each.) > > Ok... > > So what happens when you want to connect via TCP/IP? Does each virtual > server have a seperate port for connecting front end applications? > (I'm not sure that this is a viable architecture.) > > With respect to Linux versions, I like and have been running SuSE. I > started using SuSE many versions ago since it had a better install > interface that RedHat. > > If you're looking for a version of Linux where you can get support, > SuSE's enterprise version may be the best answer. > > Marty Laurie ?sp? likes Ubuntu beause it has better wireless support. > Timmy likes it because it has a better release mechanism. > > Of course I'm now a bad person because I'm not bothered by Novell's deal > with the devil. ;-) > > -Mikey > > _________________________________________________________________ > Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play now'it's FREE! > http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 >