Russian Hackers Offer Databases
Posted in 2000
Not a technical thread at all: it starts with a spam advert from "Russian hackers" selling stolen personal-data lookup databases, posted off-topic to comp.databases.ms-access. Regulars reply that the group's charter and FAQ forbid advertising, warn that using such data would breach EU/Irish data protection law, and joke that the only thing buyers will gain is a fraudulent credit card bill. The discussion drifts into US state governments selling personal data, identity theft, and legal directory services in France. No technical problem or resolution.
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Russian Hackers Offer Databases Hear ye, hear ye! We have obtained databases of residents in virtually every city and town of Europe, America, the UK and France. Now you can find any person who you know at least something about: you can find the person's address by the person's telephone number, the person's phone number and his or her name by the address, or you can enter the person's name and find his or her telephone number. Say, you met a girl in Amsterdam and you don't know anything about her but her name and date of birth. Don't worry: this information will be enough to find out everything about her - her phone, address, last name, and even the number of her passport and her driver's license. Or, say, your Berlin business partner left you just his cellular phone number. No problem at all. In just one second you will find out his name, his home address and phone number, or, if you wish, his age, the number of his passport and the number of his driver's license. Do you want to know who owns the car under your window? Just enter the vehicle's license plate number, and you will know all the data on its owner. We can do it all, and now so can you. For more information, click here http:\\\\home.comset.net\\hackbase E-mail hackbase@comset.net Russian hackers.
"hackbase" <hackbase@xxx.yyy> wrote: > Russian Hackers Offer Databases > > Hear ye, hear ye! We have obtained databases of residents > in virtually every city and town of Europe, America, the UK and > France. Now you can find any person who you know at least . . . USENET Newsgroup rules prohibit advertising of any kind in all newsgroups except those whose charter permits it. The charter of comp.databases.ms-access not only does not permit advertising, it specifically repeats the prohibition. This is clearly explained in the daily FAQ post and at the newsgroup's FAQ site, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette. Also, this advertisement is clearly off-topic. By posting here, you have demonstrated that you are not a regular participant in the newsgroup (or you would have seen this admonition many times and would know that most participants here do not patronize spammers) or that you are someone who is unwilling to follow the rules of the newsgroup. Thank you for your consideration in not posting any additional advertisements in comp.databases.ms-access. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Agreed on all points. In addition, there are legal implications for anyone who might be considering using such a service. Here in Ireland there are laws about what you can and can not do with personal information stored on a computer. I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but as our law is based on an EC directive, I would imagine that similar laws exist at least in other EC countries. -- Brendan Reynolds brenreyn@indigo.ie http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 Larry Linson <accdevel@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:87eviv$d3t$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > "hackbase" <hackbase@xxx.yyy> wrote: > > Russian Hackers Offer Databases > > > > Hear ye, hear ye! We have obtained databases of residents > > in virtually every city and town of Europe, America, the UK and > > France. Now you can find any person who you know at least . . . > > USENET Newsgroup rules prohibit advertising of any kind in all > newsgroups except those whose charter permits it. The charter of > comp.databases.ms-access not only does not permit advertising, it > specifically repeats the prohibition. This is clearly explained in the > daily FAQ post and at the newsgroup's FAQ site, > http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette. > > Also, this advertisement is clearly off-topic. > > By posting here, you have demonstrated that you are not a regular > participant in the newsgroup (or you would have seen this admonition > many times and would know that most participants here do not patronize > spammers) or that you are someone who is unwilling to follow the rules > of the newsgroup. > > Thank you for your consideration in not posting any additional > advertisements in comp.databases.ms-access. > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
I should have thought that all those rushing to give their Platinum Credit Card Numbers to Russian Hackers in return for a database of other peoples personal details are highly unlikely to ever be in possession of illegal material, or any material, other than a HUGE Credit Card Bill. :-) -- Henry Craven ----------------------------------------- H_Craven@bigpond.com "Brendan Reynolds" <brenreyn@indigo.ie> wrote in message news:7nWm4.9314$J9.5029@news.indigo.ie... > Agreed on all points. In addition, there are legal implications for anyone > who might be considering using such a service. Here in Ireland there are > laws about what you can and can not do with personal information stored on a > computer. I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but as our law is based on > an EC directive, I would imagine that similar laws exist at least in other > EC countries. > > -- > Brendan Reynolds > brenreyn@indigo.ie > http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 > > Larry Linson <accdevel@my-deja.com> wrote in message > news:87eviv$d3t$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > "hackbase" <hackbase@xxx.yyy> wrote: > > > Russian Hackers Offer Databases > > > > > > Hear ye, hear ye! We have obtained databases of residents > > > in virtually every city and town of Europe, America, the UK and > > > France. Now you can find any person who you know at least . . . > > > > USENET Newsgroup rules prohibit advertising of any kind in all > > newsgroups except those whose charter permits it. The charter of > > comp.databases.ms-access not only does not permit advertising, it > > specifically repeats the prohibition. This is clearly explained in the > > daily FAQ post and at the newsgroup's FAQ site, > > http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette. > > > > Also, this advertisement is clearly off-topic. > > > > By posting here, you have demonstrated that you are not a regular > > participant in the newsgroup (or you would have seen this admonition > > many times and would know that most participants here do not patronize > > spammers) or that you are someone who is unwilling to follow the rules > > of the newsgroup. > > > > Thank you for your consideration in not posting any additional > > advertisements in comp.databases.ms-access. > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > >
There's that, too, of course! :-) -- Brendan Reynolds brenreyn@indigo.ie http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 Henry Craven <GospodynNeimandt@Nyet.net> wrote in message news:KE0n4.1596$k6.4157@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > I should have thought that all those rushing to give their > Platinum Credit Card Numbers to Russian Hackers in > return for a database of other peoples personal details are > highly unlikely to ever be in possession of illegal material, > or any material, other than a HUGE Credit Card Bill. :-) > > -- > Henry Craven > ----------------------------------------- > H_Craven@bigpond.com > > "Brendan Reynolds" <brenreyn@indigo.ie> wrote in message > news:7nWm4.9314$J9.5029@news.indigo.ie... > > Agreed on all points. In addition, there are legal implications for anyone > > who might be considering using such a service. Here in Ireland there are > > laws about what you can and can not do with personal information stored on > a > > computer. I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but as our law is based > on > > an EC directive, I would imagine that similar laws exist at least in other > > EC countries. > > > > -- > > Brendan Reynolds > > brenreyn@indigo.ie > > http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 > > > > Larry Linson <accdevel@my-deja.com> wrote in message > > news:87eviv$d3t$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > "hackbase" <hackbase@xxx.yyy> wrote: > > > > Russian Hackers Offer Databases > > > > > > > > Hear ye, hear ye! We have obtained databases of residents > > > > in virtually every city and town of Europe, America, the UK and > > > > France. Now you can find any person who you know at least . . . > > > > > > USENET Newsgroup rules prohibit advertising of any kind in all > > > newsgroups except those whose charter permits it. The charter of > > > comp.databases.ms-access not only does not permit advertising, it > > > specifically repeats the prohibition. This is clearly explained in the > > > daily FAQ post and at the newsgroup's FAQ site, > > > http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette. > > > > > > Also, this advertisement is clearly off-topic. > > > > > > By posting here, you have demonstrated that you are not a regular > > > participant in the newsgroup (or you would have seen this admonition > > > many times and would know that most participants here do not patronize > > > spammers) or that you are someone who is unwilling to follow the rules > > > of the newsgroup. > > > > > > Thank you for your consideration in not posting any additional > > > advertisements in comp.databases.ms-access. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > > >
Brendan Reynolds wrote in message <7nWm4.9314$J9.5029@news.indigo.ie>... <snip> Here in Ireland there arelaws about what you can and can not do with personal information stored on a computer. <snip> Gee, Brendan. Here in the States we don't need no Russian Hackers because our own government is fulfilling the *Russian Hacker* role and peddling the info directly. http://detnews.com/EDITPAGE/0001/14/2edit/2edit.htm George
I checked out that URL, George, and I'm genuinely shocked. Your state governments have been doing something that I believe would be illegal in every EC country. Of course, EC law isn't perfect either. Last I heard (and it's possible that things could have changed, because I don't follow this stuff very closely) the law covered only personal information stored electronically. Some organizations were working around it by transferring their lists to manual card indexes. Last time this subject came up, someone requested more information and I posted an URL. I can't remember the URL now, but I found it by doing a Web search on 'Data Protection Act'. I believe the URL I posted, which had a lot of information on the Act, was one of the UK university Web sites. -- Brendan Reynolds brenreyn@indigo.ie http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 George Shears <gjshears@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:87k8l6$2adk$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com... > > Brendan Reynolds wrote in message <7nWm4.9314$J9.5029@news.indigo.ie>... > <snip> > Here in Ireland there arelaws about what you can and can not do with > personal information stored on a computer. > <snip> > > > Gee, Brendan. Here in the States we don't need no Russian Hackers because > our own government is fulfilling the *Russian Hacker* role and peddling the > info directly. > > http://detnews.com/EDITPAGE/0001/14/2edit/2edit.htm > > George > >
Here's the URL's you posted. http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/elj/jilt/dp/1eire/eire1.htm http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/elj/jilt/dp/ It is disgusting how our privacy in the U.S. is being ignored by our states, our federal government, and by private companies, especially financial and insurance companies. Just this morning, there was a TV news story showing how these practices are causing 3/4 of a million cases of fraudulent identity resulting in ruined lives for those whose identity is usurped. That doesn't even address the millions of cases of mistakes or the fraudulent identity SSN's of the illegal aliens here. --- Arvin Meyer Brendan Reynolds wrote in message ... >I checked out that URL, George, and I'm genuinely shocked. Your state >governments have been doing something that I believe would be illegal in >every EC country. > >Of course, EC law isn't perfect either. Last I heard (and it's possible that >things could have changed, because I don't follow this stuff very closely) >the law covered only personal information stored electronically. Some >organizations were working around it by transferring their lists to manual >card indexes. > >Last time this subject came up, someone requested more information and I >posted an URL. I can't remember the URL now, but I found it by doing a Web >search on 'Data Protection Act'. I believe the URL I posted, which had a lot >of information on the Act, was one of the UK university Web sites. > >-- >Brendan Reynolds >brenreyn@indigo.ie >http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/susumi/433 > >George Shears <gjshears@prodigy.net> wrote in message >news:87k8l6$2adk$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com... >> >> Brendan Reynolds wrote in message <7nWm4.9314$J9.5029@news.indigo.ie>... >> <snip> >> Here in Ireland there arelaws about what you can and can not do with >> personal information stored on a computer. >> <snip> >> >> >> Gee, Brendan. Here in the States we don't need no Russian Hackers because >> our own government is fulfilling the *Russian Hacker* role and peddling >the >> info directly. >> >> http://detnews.com/EDITPAGE/0001/14/2edit/2edit.htm >> >> George >> >> > >
In France, you have other solutions: - if you have a name, you can freely get the address and the phone number if the person did not put himself on the red list. This service is provided by the French public service : www.pagezoom.com !!! But if you live in France, you get a paper edition for your district. - if you have a phone number, you can get the name of the person for about 10 FF, about 2$. It is perfectly legal. Anyway, as said on previous posting, I would not give my credit card number to them... L. Aufrechter Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Same problem in the US for #1, except to get a non-published number costs MORE than one that is listed in the phone book and available to directory assistance. -- ?MichKa (insensitive fruitarian) random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard, and lots of replication "stuff" at http://www.trigeminal.com/ ? <laufrech@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:87m9he$bnc$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In France, you have other solutions: > - if you have a name, you can freely get the address and the phone > number if the person did not put himself on the red list. This service > is provided by the French public service : www.pagezoom.com !!! But if > you live in France, you get a paper edition for your district. > > - if you have a phone number, you can get the name of the person for > about 10 FF, about 2$. It is perfectly legal. > > Anyway, as said on previous posting, I would not give my credit card > number to them... > > L. Aufrechter > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.