Re: Whither Informix?
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1162067233.388732@bubbleator.drizzle.com... > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/rdb7/index.html > > > > There was a new release of the product on 19-June of this year. > > HUGE ENHANCEMENT IS THE KEY WORD. > > Can you show some huge enhancements in RDB. Can you show a > customer like CISCO opting for RDB over other RDBMS for some > next generation killer application. > > BTW taken from Guy's blog:- > > " > Informix Q3 Results > > Thanks Informix Zone for making the Executive Roundtable > slides available for download. Buried within this > presentation is the fact that Informix licence revenue grew > by double digits in all three quarters this year. The rise of > Informix continues. > " > > http://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/gbowerman?entr > y=informix_q3_results > > > I do agree that long term I don't see much future for > Informix, but at the same time I have to give credit to IBM > for investing in it significantly. Get a new Crystal ball :-) Paul Watson Tel: +44 1414161772 Mob: +44 7818003457 Web: www.oninit.com GO FURTHER with DB2 GET THERE FASTER with Informix. Attend IDUG 2007 San Jose, North America May 6-10, 2006 Visit http://www.iiug.org/conf for more information.
"Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message news:3b2001c6fabc$bed4f1a0$0201a8c0@arnold... >> Sebastian, Norma J. wrote: >> >> > So are we asking for something for informix that IBM just >> doesn't do >> > in general? >> >> No! >> >> Next question. >> >> If one pays attention to what IBM does ... rather than what IBM says. >> Then it is remarkably clear that not one dollar, beyond what >> Informix brings in from the current installed base, will be >> spent on the product. > > There is a significant and steadily increasing dev budget for the > > Informix product set. Not sure if you're wilfully missing the point as a joke, Paul. You're a bright man so I think you must know that he meant marketiting and advertising. The fact remains and, I have sadly come to the conclusion, will always remain that IBM has no intention of advertising and marketing Informix beyond its existing client client base. And, since DB2 is just an irrelevance in the non-mainframe arena, they are fucking up royally. But there's no telling them.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Captain Pedantic [mailto:theharlequin36@hotmail.com] > Posted At: 28 October 2006 18:10 > Posted To: comp.databases.informix > Conversation: Whither Informix? > Subject: Re: Whither Informix? > > > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message > news:3b2001c6fabc$bed4f1a0$0201a8c0@arnold... > >> Sebastian, Norma J. wrote: > >> > >> > So are we asking for something for informix that IBM just > >> doesn't do > >> > in general? > >> > >> No! > >> > >> Next question. > >> > >> If one pays attention to what IBM does ... rather than > what IBM says. > >> Then it is remarkably clear that not one dollar, beyond > what Informix > >> brings in from the current installed base, will be spent on the > >> product. > > > > There is a significant and steadily increasing dev budget for the > > > Informix product set. > > Not sure if you're wilfully missing the point as a joke, > Paul. You're a bright man so I think you must know that he > meant marketiting and advertising. The fact remains and, I > have sadly come to the conclusion, will always remain that > IBM has no intention of advertising and marketing Informix > beyond its existing client client base. And, since DB2 is > just an irrelevance in the non-mainframe arena, they are > fucking up royally. But there's no telling them. Me wilful ? Never :-) And I've never been called bright, I rely on smoke and mirrors IBM have repeastedly stated that they will not market Informix :-) They believe that they need to market Information (Mis)Management Cheers Paul Paul Watson Tel: +44 1414161772 Mob: +44 7818003457 Web: www.oninit.com GO FURTHER with DB2 GET THERE FASTER with Informix. Attend IDUG 2007 San Jose, North America May 6-10, 2006 Visit http://www.iiug.org/conf for more information.
Captain Pedantic wrote: > "Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message > news:3b2001c6fabc$bed4f1a0$0201a8c0@arnold... >>> Sebastian, Norma J. wrote: >>> >>>> So are we asking for something for informix that IBM just >>> doesn't do >>>> in general? >>> No! >>> >>> Next question. >>> >>> If one pays attention to what IBM does ... rather than what IBM says. >>> Then it is remarkably clear that not one dollar, beyond what >>> Informix brings in from the current installed base, will be >>> spent on the product. >> There is a significant and steadily increasing dev budget for the > >> Informix product set. > > Not sure if you're wilfully missing the point as a joke, Paul. You're a > bright man so I think you must know that he meant marketiting and > advertising. The fact remains and, I have sadly come to the conclusion, > will always remain that IBM has no intention of advertising and marketing > Informix beyond its existing client client base. And, since DB2 is just an > irrelevance in the non-mainframe arena, they are fucking up royally. But > there's no telling them. > > What would be great is to find a buyer for Informix, and offer IBM the true balance-sheet value of Informix, and let IBM take the perceived loss on it. They can take the little bit of profits from it, and trim the fat by dumping it at a loss. This would be a great move because it allows IBM to get the millstone off their neck about the confusion over "which database gets to be on top and which database gets to be the bitch". It's just no business strategy at all to have either database product practically invisible compared to Oracle or even MySQL for gawd's sakes. IBM just doesn't seem to have any vision... they look like quitters, or just ignorants...
[cutting] > What would be great is to find a buyer for Informix, and > offer IBM the true balance-sheet value of Informix, and let > IBM take the perceived loss on it. > > > They can take the little bit of profits from it, and trim the > fat by dumping it at a loss. > > > This would be a great move because it allows IBM to get the > millstone off their neck about the confusion over "which > database gets to be on top and > which database gets to be the bitch". It's just no business > strategy at all > to have either database product practically invisible > compared to Oracle or even MySQL for gawd's sakes. IBM just > doesn't seem to have any vision... they look like quitters, > or just ignorants... Why on earth would they sell it now, it's showing consistent double digit growth in revenue and IBM believe that this revenue will continue? Paul Watson Tel: +44 1414161772 Mob: +44 7818003457 Web: www.oninit.com GO FURTHER with DB2 GET THERE FASTER with Informix. Attend IDUG 2007 San Jose, North America May 6-10, 2006 Visit http://www.iiug.org/conf for more information.