Re: XPS to IDS - a positive note for all from the road
On Aug 27, 2:31 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Please, enlighten me with your contributions to the discussion Ravi. > > Otherwise fuck off and die. Timmy, relax. These are sock puppets of idiots who don't know jack. It would be interesting if they in fact did work for IBM. It would further prove that hydrocephali doesn't mean you can't get a job beyond biting heads off chickens in a side show. Lets face it. How many people forgot that Informix blew their chance to be first to port to Linux. (Oh yeah, no one is going to use an operating system like that for a server.) ;-) 10 years ago. So what does that tell you?
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > On Aug 27, 2:31 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > >> Please, enlighten me with your contributions to the discussion Ravi. >> >> Otherwise fuck off and die. > > Timmy, relax. > These are sock puppets of idiots who don't know jack. It would be > interesting if they in fact did work for IBM. It would further prove > that hydrocephali doesn't mean you can't get a job beyond biting heads > off chickens in a side show. > > Lets face it. How many people forgot that Informix blew their chance > to be first to port to Linux. > (Oh yeah, no one is going to use an operating system like that for a > server.) ;-) > > 10 years ago. > > So what does that tell you? > Mikey, 10 years is a long time by a lot of standards. In internet time it is several generations of technological transformation across the planet and several significant political evolutions, not to mention all the other stuff that has happened over the past 10 years. It is astonishing that 10 years later we still see Informix floundering needlessly, and still see people getting caught up in attacking the few people who want to see the product succeed. Most of the past 10 years have seen little if any Informix in the market, only as as an occasional footnote in a conversation, never seen in circles it should occupy because its caretakers have no clue what to do with it. 10 long years, and somehow my expectations are still too high. 10 long years and somehow Oracles' growth has taken off using the very principles that we talk about here. If Informix were really allowed to succeed, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. We'll talk again in 10 years, and I'll be retired off of a better business career without IBM or Informix. Informix never had a chance no matter how good it was. In 10 years anything Informix had going for it will not matter anymore anyway. C'est la vie. The dolts will have long left IBM and there won't be any more said about it, other than old men knowing about a really missed opportunity. And that will be that. -
> From: indeep@indeep.com > We'll talk again in 10 years, and I'll be retired off of a better business > career without IBM or Informix. Informix never had a chance no matter how > good it was. In 10 years anything Informix had going for it will not matter > anymore anyway. C'est la vie. The dolts will have long left IBM and there > won't be any more said about it, other than old men knowing about a really > missed opportunity. And that will be that. > LOL! I should say fortunately, IDS will be around. Not in any real part to the dolts who are in Product Management or Product Marketing at this time. All I can say is that when I was ready to fly out and make a presentation to show them the numbers, they were too busy. IMHO, they bought in to the idea that a database is a commodity. Probably true, just like a car is a commodity. Yet see how many different brands and models exist for such a homogenized commodity. Anyways, the latest round of sock puppets don't know jack. I did more to help IBM break into some white space in Brooklyn, while commuting between Chicago and S.C. I wonder if Splinter is Bernie Spang. You know, the IBM spokesperson who will only give IDS a "backhanded" complement and praise DB2 at the same time. He must have been one of Janet's hand picked "boyz" because from an IDS person' s view, he's put hit foot in his mouth far too many times. You should see his quotes about IBM's geodetic stuff. Priceless. -G _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > I wonder if Splinter is Bernie Spang. You know, the IBM spokesperson who > will only give IDS a "backhanded" complement and praise DB2 at the same > time. He must have been one of Janet's hand picked "boyz" because from > an IDS person' s view, he's put hit foot in his mouth far too many times. > > You should see his quotes about IBM's geodetic stuff. Priceless. > > -G > There will be more lost opportunities for IDS, while competing products move forward. MySQL's latest offering has partitioning, stored procs, and a lot of the up-and-coming developers are already knee deep in it. Last year I did a brief consulting gig with a dot-com that was already in production with an alpha release of MySQL, with hundreds of stored procs, and well into using everything the product has. So I think that we will continue to see the new generation of developers moving along with products like MySQL, which has embraced web 2.0 and the whole next gen thing with PHP & Python, and even Tomcat, lots of java coming up too. IDS could be a part of that but unfortunately IBM doesn't have a clue about where things are headed. They are too busy working on building their offshore empire and bilking fortune 100's out of money, so I don't think they will have the bandwidth to really make anything happen. This is why the dolts in Informix marketing are getting away with non-performance, nobody is really paying any attention to what they aren't doing. So say good-bye to IDS, it will continue to languish and occasionally get sold to somebody and make a whimper here and there but it's really not going anywhere. Their idea of pushing down from the top is really un-earned, as if they can sell IDS like Oracle. Informix needs to start from scratch and get the foundation build with developers, not just VARs. When this happens Informix will be back on the map. Without a mainstream developer community IDS will never go anywhere. And now, it's basically a new product deja vu all over again.