Re: XPS to IDS - a positive note for all from the road

On Aug 27, 12:21 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Cloud computing is what it is, all gas. > > I'm not talking about ephemeral ethereal nonsense, I'm talking about > getting these products into the hands of people that will actually > set them up, and possibly deploy them. These people don't want to have > to pay to play, in fact they should be paid to play. > InDeep/Timmy, Cloud computing is real. Real enough that Dell tried to trademark the name. Real enough that you have major players sinking a lot of money in to it. Oh and lets give some credit to McNealy and Ellison who talked about the precursor of "cloud" with their "The Net is the Computer". There's a bit more to this, but to say that its "nonsense" shows that you're not paying attention to the world around you. And the issue of not wanting to pay to play, that's a personal choice and its again unrealistic. You grok java, right? And if you want to be certified you have to shell out what $200-$300 for the prometric tests? And then you have to take the next series to show you're not just a certified developer but a certified architect. So even "free" has some sort of price tag. (Not considering opportunity costs ...) > Until IBM seeds the IDS market ( not ceded which they already accomplished ) > with real products and attractive offers to get involved with IDS ( and not > from the goddam IIUG ) this is a completely academic discussion. > Sigh. You keep harping on the same topic. Unfortunately you're not going to win any argument talking about "seeding" the market. What you need to do is to show a community or niche that IDS offers a competitive advantage. You do this and you will generate sales. That's no secret. Its figuring out which niche to chase and how to gain interest that is the difficult part. And of course how IDS will have a competitive advantage. Trying to go toe to toe with Oracle will be suicide. You keep trying to "market to the developer community". You don't. The "development community" isn't the ones writing the checks. ;-) -G