Re: No future for DB2 - slightly off-topic, discusses what people are being taught at uni
DA Morgan wrote: > All joking aside ... > how many people do you know in IT today that can't, given a single > first-normal form table, convert it to 2NF, 3NF, etc. All joking aside? I can count on two hands people in my previous job who were familiar with NF. Certainly in the upper management spheres there were simply none. And that was an IT organization, IBM var and all that jazz. Ah yes: they all vented as if they knew a lot about it. Then a coupla pointed questions later they'd be changing subjects vvf... > More on this later and hopefully something about the American College > of Database Professionals: An organization in its formative stages and > modeled after other professional organizations such as www.facs.org. Careful with that stuff: an organisation imposed from the "top down" instead of being discussed and accepted by the people in the profession is going to go the same way as the Oracle "certifications": right next to the dodo. Enough of vendor-sponsored "certifying" orgs already....
Noons wrote: > DA Morgan wrote: > >> All joking aside ... >>how many people do you know in IT today that can't, given a single >>first-normal form table, convert it to 2NF, 3NF, etc. > > > All joking aside? I can count on two hands people in my previous > job who were familiar with NF. Certainly in the upper management > spheres there were simply none. And that was an IT organization, > IBM var and all that jazz. > > Ah yes: they all vented as if they knew a lot about it. Then a > coupla pointed questions later they'd be changing subjects vvf... > > >>More on this later and hopefully something about the American College >>of Database Professionals: An organization in its formative stages and >>modeled after other professional organizations such as www.facs.org. > > > Careful with that stuff: an organisation imposed from the "top down" > instead of being discussed and accepted by the people in the profession > > is going to go the same way as the Oracle "certifications": > right next to the dodo. > > Enough of vendor-sponsored "certifying" orgs already.... Nothing I am suggesting is or will be imposed from the top down. What I am doing is looking for like-minded professionals to join our effort. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)