Re: New Era: Your Opinion
On 9 Jul 1995 12:16:24 GMT Scott McClintock wrote: >: :On Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:21:04 GMT paul.d.finkel wrote: >: :>I am the "project leader" (read: only guy left who knows the system) >: :>for an 8-year-old SE app. It will be migrated to a new machine >: :>(NCR34XX) and a new vers of UNIX and new version of Informix. >: :> >: :>Here's the concern: our local Informix tech support guy, who has >: :>been unfailingly helpful, has suggested moving the app to c/s with >: :>Informix's New Era. He says it will be much easier than a total >: :>redesign with Powerbuilder (for example). >: :> >: DON'T DO IT.... >: I am a windows programmer (5 year) and I have this year move to a >: company that has just started using NewEra. And I must say if your >: looking for a windows client/sever system you would be better severed >: by a any other program. It's window paint is slow and very basic, with >: almost no useful controls at all. Two control type (SuperTables and >: SuperFields) look like they will do all your work for you, Don't be >: fooled for if you wish to do any thing other than doing a query by >: example and display (with it does with no code) it is almost >: impossible. They sell it by saying "It's full OO" with it is, To a I disagree with you. But I also understand you are not a 4GL programmer, thus the blindness to what NewEra is. But I'm really surprised you attack the "OO"-ness of NewEra, I would think a "5-year-old windows programmer" would appreciate it. So, what do you think of the descriptions "scalability", "extensibility", "OLTP" ... Doesn't it worry you more than the buzz word "OO". Scott McClintock <scott@vetpath.vet.uq.oz.au> puts the record right in his descriptions... >Disagree!!! SuperTables & SuperFields, whilst they have some limitations >(we have had to do one thing without them so far) provide a level of >control and flexibility that is very impressive for a Version 1.00 >product. The stuff we're doing is definitely not trivial either! > >: and thats a simple one. True OO is great if you have five years to sit >: and talk about how you program will interface with the growing >: software development and five more year to write the code. My programs >: due to be finished be the end of next week. > You got a point there, but I don't like that negative attitude of yours. Design and Analysis is the soul of OOP, and yes it takes time, a lot of time in fact, does that mean we shouldn't do it!!! I wonder how many programmers have that misconception that OO means "sit and talk". Anyway, isn't that what NewEra can be used for, transition from structured programming to OOP through its support for a hybrid language architecture.?? Yeah, the tools is slow, takes up a lot of resources, both memory and graphical, there is no doubt about it. But there is no denying that it is a promising tool for 4GL programmers. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Calvin Ng email: <calvinng@brel.com.sg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- [DISCLAIMER] Read at your own risks. The author is not liable for any consequences directly or indirectly involved with reading this mail. This mail MAY NOT be interpreted as those of my employer's. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This mail is sent with the help of Chameleon TCP/IP for Windows. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=