Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III

I attempted to install Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2. But it crapped out twice, and would not complete the installation. Facts 1. I created user informix and group informix before installation. 2. INFORMIXDIR unset First time I installed it failed because I changed the default location for the rootdbs. It errored out because the directory didn't exist. OK, so fine, they could have put a "mkdir -p /data/informix/demo" to create the directory in case it didn't exist. So, second install, I created the /data/informix/demo directory to create the rootdbs, before running the installation. What follows is the output of the whole doggone installation. If you have any children in the room, cover their eyes. ( Trying to be dramatic here :-) INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused the problem? ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) ====================== BEGIN MOVIE ==================================== Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ 1. Release Notes 2. Quick Beginnings Guide 3. Begin Installation Please select one of these options [3] Beginning installation... Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle on your computer. To continue, choose Next. Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Software Licensing Agreement Press Enter to display the license agreement on your screen. Please read the agreement carefully before installing the Program. After reading the agreement, you will be given the opportunity to accept it or decline it. If you choose to decline the agreement, installation will not be completed and you will not be able to use the Program. International License Agreement for Early Release of Programs Part 1 - General Terms THIS INTERNATIONAL LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR EARLY RELEASE OF PROGRAMS ("AGREEMENT") IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND IBM. BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR USING THE PROGRAM YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU ARE ACCEPTING THESE TERMS ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER PERSON OR A COMPANY OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY, YOU REPRESENT AND WARRANT THAT YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO BIND THAT PERSON, COMPANY, OR LEGAL ENTITY TO THESE TERMS. Press Enter to continue viewing the license agreement, or, Enter 1 to accept the agreement, 2 to decline it or 99 to go back to the previous screen. 1 Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle Install Location Please specify a directory or press Enter to accept the default directory. Directory Name: [/opt/IBM/informix] Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Searching for products available for install: this may take a few minutes. Select the products you would like to install: To select/deselect a product or to change its setup type, type its number: Product Setup Type ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ 1. [ ] IBM Informix IConnect 2. [x] IBM Informix Client-SDK Typical 3. [x] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Typical 4. [x] IBM Informix JDBC Driver Other options: 0. Continue installing Enter command [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Checking for Server Prerequisite Libraries ... Do you want to enable role separation? [ ] 1 - Yes [X] 2 - No To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Do you want to create an IDS demonstration database instance? [ ] 1 - Create Demo [X] 2 - Do Not Create Demo To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] 1 Enter 0 to continue or 1 to make another selection: [0] You can create the demonstration database instance to ensure that the product is properly installed and the hardware is configured to work with IDS. If the demonstration database is properly configured, you can use it as a production database. Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Do you want to configure the demonstration database server based on a pre-existing onconfig file? (IDS configuration file) [ ] 1 - Yes [X] 2 - No To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Enter the demonstration database server number (in the range of 0 to 255). Server Name: [demo_on] Server Number: [0] ROOTPATH [/opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/online_root] /data/informix/demo/rootdbs ROOTSIZE [50000] 100000 BUFFERPOOL [size=2k,buffers=1000,lrus=8,lru_min_dirty=50,lru_max_dirty=60] NUMCPUVPS [1] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle will be installed in the following location: /opt/IBM/informix with the following features: IBM Informix Client-SDK IBM Informix Dynamic Server IBM Informix JDBC Driver for a total size: 269.8 MB Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Installing IBM Informix Client-SDK. Please wait... 0 % complete 10 % complete 20 % complete 30 % complete 40 % complete 50 % complete 60 % complete 70 % complete 80 % complete 90 % complete 100 % complete Installing IBM Informix Dynamic Server. Please wait... Creating uninstaller... Installing IBM Informix JDBC Driver. Please wait... Creating uninstaller... Branding Installed Files ... Installing SDK Message Files by RPM Installing SDK GLS Files by RPM Installing SDK Files by RPM Branding Files ... Installing directory . Installing directory etc Installing directory bin Installing directory lib Installing directory lib/client Installing directory lib/client/csm Installing directory lib/esql Installing directory lib/dmi Installing directory lib/c++ Installing directory lib/cli Installing directory release Installing directory release/en_us Installing directory release/en_us/0333 Installing directory incl Installing directory incl/esql Installing directory incl/dmi Installing directory incl/c++ Installing directory incl/cli Installing directory demo Installing directory demo/esqlc Installing directory demo/c++ Installing directory demo/cli Installing directory doc Installing directory doc/gls_api Installing directory doc/gls_api/en_us Installing directory doc/gls_api/en_us/0333 IBM Informix Product: IBM INFORMIX-Client SDK Inst

I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a couple of minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the process, I want to capture and forward them on. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:21 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III I attempted to install Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2. But it crapped out twice, and would not complete the installation. Facts 1. I created user informix and group informix before installation. 2. INFORMIXDIR unset First time I installed it failed because I changed the default location for the rootdbs. It errored out because the directory didn't exist. OK, so fine, they could have put a "mkdir -p /data/informix/demo" to create the directory in case it didn't exist. So, second install, I created the /data/informix/demo directory to create the rootdbs, before running the installation. What follows is the output of the whole doggone installation. If you have any children in the room, cover their eyes. ( Trying to be dramatic here :-) INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused the problem? ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) ====================== BEGIN MOVIE ==================================== Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ Launching InstallShield Wizard........ 1. Release Notes 2. Quick Beginnings Guide 3. Begin Installation Please select one of these options [3] Beginning installation... Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle on your computer. To continue, choose Next. Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Software Licensing Agreement Press Enter to display the license agreement on your screen. Please read the agreement carefully before installing the Program. After reading the agreement, you will be given the opportunity to accept it or decline it. If you choose to decline the agreement, installation will not be completed and you will not be able to use the Program. International License Agreement for Early Release of Programs Part 1 - General Terms THIS INTERNATIONAL LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR EARLY RELEASE OF PROGRAMS ("AGREEMENT") IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND IBM. BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR USING THE PROGRAM YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU ARE ACCEPTING THESE TERMS ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER PERSON OR A COMPANY OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY, YOU REPRESENT AND WARRANT THAT YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO BIND THAT PERSON, COMPANY, OR LEGAL ENTITY TO THESE TERMS. Press Enter to continue viewing the license agreement, or, Enter 1 to accept the agreement, 2 to decline it or 99 to go back to the previous screen. 1 Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle Install Location Please specify a directory or press Enter to accept the default directory. Directory Name: [/opt/IBM/informix] Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Searching for products available for install: this may take a few minutes. Select the products you would like to install: To select/deselect a product or to change its setup type, type its number: Product Setup Type ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ 1. [ ] IBM Informix IConnect 2. [x] IBM Informix Client-SDK Typical 3. [x] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Typical 4. [x] IBM Informix JDBC Driver Other options: 0. Continue installing Enter command [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Checking for Server Prerequisite Libraries ... Do you want to enable role separation? [ ] 1 - Yes [X] 2 - No To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Do you want to create an IDS demonstration database instance? [ ] 1 - Create Demo [X] 2 - Do Not Create Demo To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] 1 Enter 0 to continue or 1 to make another selection: [0] You can create the demonstration database instance to ensure that the product is properly installed and the hardware is configured to work with IDS. If the demonstration database is properly configured, you can use it as a production database. Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Do you want to configure the demonstration database server based on a pre-existing onconfig file? (IDS configuration file) [ ] 1 - Yes [X] 2 - No To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Enter the demonstration database server number (in the range of 0 to 255). Server Name: [demo_on] Server Number: [0] ROOTPATH [/opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/online_root] /data/informix/demo/rootdbs ROOTSIZE [50000] 100000 BUFFERPOOL [size=2k,buffers=1000,lrus=8,lru_min_dirty=50,lru_max_dirty=60] NUMCPUVPS [1] Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle will be installed in the following location: /opt/IBM/informix with the following features: IBM Informix Client-SDK IBM Informix Dynamic Server IBM Informix JDBC Driver for a total size: 269.8 MB Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] Installing IBM Informix Client-SDK. Please wait... 0 % complete 10 % complete 20 % complete 30 % complete 40 % complete 50 % complete 60 % complete 70 % complete 80 % complete 90 % complete 100 % complete Installing IBM Informix Dynamic Server. Please wait... Creating uninstaller... Installing IBM Informix JDBC Driver. Please wait... Creating uninstaller... Branding Installed Files ... Installing SDK Message Files by RPM Installing SDK GLS Files by RPM Installing SDK Files by RPM Branding Files ... Installing directory . Installing directory etc Installing directory bin Installing directory lib Installing directory lib/client Installing directory lib/client/csm Installing directory lib/esql Installing directory lib/dmi Installing directory lib/c++ Installing directory lib/cli Installing direct

Jack Parker wrote: > I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a > fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a couple of > minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the process, I > want to capture and forward them on. > > j. > Well Jack, First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened to some music for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, blew my last big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring black and white, and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and pushed on. As I look back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was disappointed that my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, that's my frustration at this point, I hope the install team will understand. :-) Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I think they've got a chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the installation begins. -t-

Hi Tool, How about the following ? 1. source /opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/profile_settings.csh OR . /opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/profile_settings probably the following enviroment variable will be set. INFORMIXDIR=/opt/IBM/informix PATH=$PATH:/opt/IBM/informix/bin INFORMIXSERVER=demo_on ONCONFIG=onconfig.demo_on 2. now, execute oninit -ivy Probably you can see the error while oninit is initializing. Regards. -- Tsutomu Ogiwara from Tokyo Japan. >From: Tool <tool@thetool.com> >Reply-To: tool@thetool.com >To: informix-list@iiug.org >Subject: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:20:36 -0400 > > >I attempted to install Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2. But it crapped out twice, and would not complete the installation. > >Facts > >1. I created user informix and group informix before installation. >2. INFORMIXDIR unset > > >First time I installed it failed because I changed the default location for the rootdbs. It errored out because the directory didn't exist. OK, so fine, they could have put a "mkdir -p /data/informix/demo" to create the directory in case it didn't exist. > >So, second install, I created the /data/informix/demo directory to create the rootdbs, before running the installation. > >What follows is the output of the whole doggone installation. If you have any children in the room, cover their eyes. >( Trying to be dramatic here :-) > >INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused the problem? >( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) > >====================== BEGIN MOVIE ==================================== > > > > > > > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > Launching InstallShield Wizard........ > > > 1. Release Notes > 2. Quick Beginnings Guide > 3. Begin Installation > >Please select one of these options [3] > >Beginning installation... > > >Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle > >The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle on >your computer. >To continue, choose Next. > > > > > > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Software Licensing Agreement >Press Enter to display the license agreement on your screen. Please >read the agreement carefully before installing the Program. After > reading the agreement, you will be given the opportunity to accept it > or decline it. If you choose to decline the agreement, installation > will not be completed and you will not be able to use the Program. > > > International License Agreement for Early Release of > Programs > > > >Part 1 - General Terms > > > >THIS INTERNATIONAL LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR EARLY RELEASE OF > PROGRAMS ("AGREEMENT") IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND > IBM. BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR > USING THE PROGRAM YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. > IF YOU ARE ACCEPTING THESE TERMS ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER > PERSON OR A COMPANY OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY, YOU REPRESENT > AND WARRANT THAT YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO BIND THAT > PERSON, COMPANY, OR LEGAL ENTITY TO THESE TERMS. > > > >Press Enter to continue viewing the license agreement, or, Enter 1 to >accept the agreement, 2 to decline it or 99 to go back to the previous > screen. > >1 > >Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle Install Location > >Please specify a directory or press Enter to accept the default directory. > >Directory Name: [/opt/IBM/informix] > >Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > >Searching for products available for install: this may take a few minutes. > >Select the products you would like to install: > > To select/deselect a product or to change its setup type, type its number: > > Product Setup Type > ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ > 1. [ ] IBM Informix IConnect > 2. [x] IBM Informix Client-SDK Typical > 3. [x] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Typical > 4. [x] IBM Informix JDBC Driver > > Other options: > > 0. Continue installing > > Enter command [0] > > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > >Checking for Server Prerequisite Libraries ... > >Do you want to enable role separation? > >[ ] 1 - Yes >[X] 2 - No > >To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] > > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Do you want to create an IDS demonstration database instance? > >[ ] 1 - Create Demo >[X] 2 - Do Not Create Demo > >To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] 1 > >Enter 0 to continue or 1 to make another selection: [0] > >You can create the demonstration database instance to ensure that the product >is properly installed and the hardware is configured to work with IDS. If the >demonstration database is properly configured, you can use it as a production >database. > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Do you want to configure the demonstration database server based on a >pre-existing onconfig file? (IDS configuration file) > >[ ] 1 - Yes >[X] 2 - No > >To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] > > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Enter the demonstration database server number (in the range of 0 to 255). > >Server Name: [demo_on] > > >Server Number: [0] > > >ROOTPATH [/opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/online_root] /data/informix/demo/rootdbs > > >ROOTSIZE [50000] 100000> > >BUFFERPOOL [size=2k,buffers=1000,lrus=8,lru_min_dirty=50,lru_max_dirty=60] > > >NUMCPUVPS [1]> > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle will be installed in the following location: > >/opt/IBM/informix > >with the following features: > >IBM Informix Client-SDK >IBM Informix Dynamic Server >IBM Informix JDBC Driver > >for a total size: > > 269.8 MB > >Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > >Installing IBM Informix Client-SDK. Please wait... > >0 % complete >10 % complete >20 % complete >30 % complete >40 % complete >50 % complete >60 % complete >70 % complete >80 % complete >90 % complete >100 % complete > > >Installing IBM Informix Dynamic Server. Please wait...@@N

Looks like installation completed successfully and the demo instance initialization failed. Can you successfully initialize an engine manually? You might want to post this to the Cheetah Test Run Support Forum at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=1071&cat=19 if you haven't already. Someone monitoring that forum might be able to better explain what happened. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tool" <tool@thetool.com> Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix To: <informix-list@iiug.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III > > I attempted to install Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2. But it crapped out > twice, and would not complete the installation. > > Facts > > 1. I created user informix and group informix before installation. > 2. INFORMIXDIR unset > > > First time I installed it failed because I changed the default location > for the rootdbs. It errored out because the directory didn't exist. OK, > so fine, they could have put a "mkdir -p /data/informix/demo" to create > the directory in case it didn't exist. > > So, second install, I created the /data/informix/demo directory to create > the rootdbs, before running the installation. > > What follows is the output of the whole doggone installation. If you have > any children in the room, cover their eyes. > ( Trying to be dramatic here :-) > > INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused > the problem? > ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) > > ====================== BEGIN MOVIE ==================================== > > > > > > > > Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ > Launching InstallShield Wizard........ > > > 1. Release Notes > 2. Quick Beginnings Guide > 3. Begin Installation > > Please select one of these options [3] > > Beginning installation... > > > Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle > > The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle > on > your computer. > To continue, choose Next. > > > > > > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Software Licensing Agreement > Press Enter to display the license agreement on your screen. Please > read the agreement carefully before installing the Program. After > reading the agreement, you will be given the opportunity to accept it > or decline it. If you choose to decline the agreement, installation > will not be completed and you will not be able to use the Program. > > > International License Agreement for Early Release of > Programs > > > > Part 1 - General Terms > > > > THIS INTERNATIONAL LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR EARLY RELEASE OF > PROGRAMS ("AGREEMENT") IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND > IBM. BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR > USING THE PROGRAM YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. > IF YOU ARE ACCEPTING THESE TERMS ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER > PERSON OR A COMPANY OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY, YOU REPRESENT > AND WARRANT THAT YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO BIND THAT > PERSON, COMPANY, OR LEGAL ENTITY TO THESE TERMS. > > > > Press Enter to continue viewing the license agreement, or, Enter 1 to > accept the agreement, 2 to decline it or 99 to go back to the previous > screen. > > 1 > > Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle Install Location > > Please specify a directory or press Enter to accept the default directory. > > Directory Name: [/opt/IBM/informix] > > Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > > Searching for products available for install: this may take a few minutes. > > Select the products you would like to install: > > To select/deselect a product or to change its setup type, type its > number: > > Product Setup Type > ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ > 1. [ ] IBM Informix IConnect > 2. [x] IBM Informix Client-SDK Typical > 3. [x] IBM Informix Dynamic Server Typical > 4. [x] IBM Informix JDBC Driver > > Other options: > > 0. Continue installing > > Enter command [0] > > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > > Checking for Server Prerequisite Libraries ... > > Do you want to enable role separation? > > [ ] 1 - Yes > [X] 2 - No > > To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] > > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Do you want to create an IDS demonstration database instance? > > [ ] 1 - Create Demo > [X] 2 - Do Not Create Demo > > To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] 1 > > Enter 0 to continue or 1 to make another selection: [0] > > You can create the demonstration database instance to ensure that the > product > is properly installed and the hardware is configured to work with IDS. If > the > demonstration database is properly configured, you can use it as a > production > database. > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Do you want to configure the demonstration database server based on a > pre-existing onconfig file? (IDS configuration file) > > [ ] 1 - Yes > [X] 2 - No > > To select an item enter its number, or 0 when you are finished: [0] > > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Enter the demonstration database server number (in the range of 0 to 255). > > Server Name: [demo_on] > > > Server Number: [0] > > > ROOTPATH [/opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/online_root] > /data/informix/demo/rootdbs > > > ROOTSIZE [50000] 100000> > > BUFFERPOOL [size=2k,buffers=1000,lrus=8,lru_min_dirty=50,lru_max_dirty=60] > > > NUMCPUVPS [1]> > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle will be installed in the following > location: > > /opt/IBM/informix > > with the following features: > > IBM Informix Client-SDK > IBM Informix Dynamic Server > IBM Informix JDBC Driver > > for a total size: > > 269.8 MB > > Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] > > Installing IBM Informix Client-SDK. Please wait... > > 0 % complete > 10 % complete > 20 % complete > 30 % complete > 40 % complete > 50 % complete > 60 % complete > 70 % complete > 80 % complete > 90 % complete > 100 % complete > > > Installing IBM Informix Dynamic Server. Please wait...@@

Ogiwara!!! You Rock!!! :-) Your suggestion worked!! Thanks!! -t- dimension:/data/informix/demo # . /opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/profile_settings dimension:/data/informix/demo # oninit -ivy Your evaluation license will expire on 2007-09-10 00:00:00 Checking group membership to determine server run mode...succeeded Reading configuration file '/opt/IBM/informix/etc/onconfig.demo_on'...succeeded Creating /INFORMIXTMP/.infxdirs...FAILED Creating infos file "/opt/IBM/informix/etc/.infos.demo_on"...succeeded Linking conf file "/opt/IBM/informix/etc/.conf.demo_on"...succeeded Writing to infos file...succeeded Checking config parameters...Invalid value of DUMPDIR '/usr/informix/tmp' in onconfig file. Setting it to default value '/opt/IBM/informix/tmp'...succeeded Allocating and attaching to shared memory...succeeded Creating resident pool 890 kbytes...succeeded Allocating 2016 kbytes for buffer pool of 2K page size...succeeded Initializing rhead structure...succeeded Initializing ASF...succeeded Initializing Dictionary Cache and SPL Routine Cache...succeeded Bringing up ADM VP...succeeded Creating VP classes...succeeded Onlining 0 additional cpu vps...succeeded Onlining 2 IO vps...succeeded Initialization of Encryption...succeeded Forking main_loop thread...succeeded Initializing DR structures...succeeded Forking 1 'soctcp' listener threads...succeeded Starting tracing...succeeded Initializing 1 flushers...succeeded Initializing log/checkpoint information...succeeded Opening primary chunks...succeeded Opening mirror chunks...succeeded Initializing dbspaces...succeeded Validating chunks...succeeded Creating database partition...succeeded Initialize Async Log Flusher...succeeded Forking btree cleaner...succeeded Initializing DBSPACETEMP list...succeeded Checking database partition index...succeeded Initializing dataskip structure...succeeded Checking for temporary tables to drop...succeeded Forking onmode_mon thread...succeeded Starting scheduling system...succeeded Verbose output complete: mode = 5 dimension:/data/informix/demo # onstat Your evaluation license will expire on 2007-09-10 00:00:00 IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.10.UB4TL -- On-Line -- Up 00:00:20 -- 19552 Kbytes Userthreads address flags sessid user tty wait tout locks nreads nwrites 444cc018 ---P--D 1 root - 0 0 0 2 7012 444cc5c0 ---P--F 0 root - 0 0 0 0 21 444ccb68 ---P--- 5 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444cd110 ---P--B 6 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444cd6b8 ---P--D 7 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444ce208 ---P--- 9 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444ce7b0 ---P--- 10 informix - 0 0 0 0 0 7 active, 128 total, 8 maximum concurrent Profile dskreads pagreads bufreads %cached dskwrits pagwrits bufwrits %cached 2 2 58 96.55 44 7033 36 0.00 isamtot open start read write rewrite delete commit rollbk 17 5 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 gp_read gp_write gp_rewrt gp_del gp_alloc gp_free gp_curs 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ovlock ovuserthread ovbuff usercpu syscpu numckpts flushes 0 0 0 0.17 1.53 1 2 bufwaits lokwaits lockreqs deadlks dltouts ckpwaits compress seqscans 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 ixda-RA idx-RA da-RA RA-pgsused lchwaits 0 0 0 0 0 Ogiwara Tsutomu wrote: > Hi Tool, > > How about the following ? > > 1. source /opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/profile_settings.csh > OR > . /opt/IBM/informix/demo/server/profile_settings > > probably the following enviroment variable will be set. > INFORMIXDIR=/opt/IBM/informix > PATH=$PATH:/opt/IBM/informix/bin > INFORMIXSERVER=demo_on > ONCONFIG=onconfig.demo_on> > 2. now, execute oninit -ivy > > Probably you can see the error while oninit is initializing. > > Regards. > > -- > Tsutomu Ogiwara from Tokyo Japan. > > > > > >> From: Tool <tool@thetool.com> >> Reply-To: tool@thetool.com >> To: informix-list@iiug.org >> Subject: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III >> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:20:36 -0400 >> >> >> I attempted to install Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2. But it crapped >> out > twice, and would not complete the installation. >> >> Facts >> >> 1. I created user informix and group informix before installation. >> 2. INFORMIXDIR unset >> >> >> First time I installed it failed because I changed the default location > for the rootdbs. It errored out because the directory didn't exist. > OK, so fine, they could have put a "mkdir -p /data/informix/demo" to > create the directory in case it didn't exist. >> >> So, second install, I created the /data/informix/demo directory to create > the rootdbs, before running the installation. >> >> What follows is the output of the whole doggone installation. If you >> have > any children in the room, cover their eyes. >> ( Trying to be dramatic here :-) >> >> INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused > the problem? >> ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) >> >> ====================== BEGIN MOVIE ==================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Initializing InstallShield Wizard........ >> Launching InstallShield Wizard........ >> >> >> 1. Release Notes >> 2. Quick Beginnings Guide >> 3. Begin Installation >> >> Please select one of these options [3] >> >> Beginning installation... >> >> >> Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] >> >> Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server >> Bundle >> >> The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Bundle > on >> your computer. >> To continue, choose Next. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Press 1 for Next, 2 for Previous, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1] >> >> Software Licensing Agreement >> Press Enter to display the license agreement on your screen. Please >> read the agreement carefully before installing the Program. After >> reading the agreement, you will be given the opportunity to accept it >> or decline it. If you choose to decline the agreement, installation >> will not be completed and you will not be able to use the Program. >> >> >> International License Agreement for Early Release of >> Programs >> >> >> >> Part 1 - General Terms >> >> >> >> THIS INTERNATIONAL LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR EARLY RELEASE OF >> PROGRAMS (

Cool! That's useful! I'm sure the install team will be able to use your suggestions to provide a less frustrating experience. I'm unsure how they'll be able to enable you to download Ganja and/or Black Velvet, but I'm sure that with your expert input they'll get right on it. How were the Britney Spears tunes? Should those be included in the download? As Mp3s or wavs? j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III Jack Parker wrote: > I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a > fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a couple of > minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the process, I > want to capture and forward them on. > > j. > Well Jack, First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened to some music for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, blew my last big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring black and white, and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and pushed on. As I look back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was disappointed that my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, that's my frustration at this point, I hope the install team will understand. :-) Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I think they've got a chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the installation begins. -t- _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Tool said: > > INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused > the problem? > ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) Can I suggest that you try Oracle instead? Their install process is much simpler. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.

I regret that I don't have any Brittany Spears music in my collection. However, I do think the installation folks need to take a look at the section of the installation where you get to pick your directory for the rootdbs. That's the point where I found the smoke to really help since that's where the installation seemed to fail. Maybe too, if the marketing department would smoke a little we'd see some really good ads. ;-) -t- Jack Parker wrote: > Cool! That's useful! I'm sure the install team will be able to use your > suggestions to provide a less frustrating experience. I'm unsure how > they'll be able to enable you to download Ganja and/or Black Velvet, but I'm > sure that with your expert input they'll get right on it. How were the > Britney Spears tunes? Should those be included in the download? As Mp3s or > wavs? > > j. > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III > > > Jack Parker wrote: >> I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a >> fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a couple of >> minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the process, > I >> want to capture and forward them on. >> >> j. >> > Well Jack, > > First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened to some > music > for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, blew my > last > big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. > > At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring black and > white, > and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE > WASTING YOUR > TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and pushed on. As > I look > back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was > disappointed that > my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, that's > my frustration > at this point, I hope the install team will understand. > > :-) > > Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I think > they've got a > chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the > installation > begins. > > -t- > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= *

Well, my hard drive may not have enough space for Oracle. Doesn't Oracle take up something like 5GB of space? And I think my little Pentium III pooch would probably die trying to run it. I've got MySQL and Informix, what else do I really need? Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Tool said: >> INFORMIXDIR was unset now that I think of it. Maybe that's what caused >> the problem? >> ( I would think this should be set internally in the installation. ) > > Can I suggest that you try Oracle instead? Their install process is much > simpler. > -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= *

Tool wrote: > Well, my hard drive may not have enough space for Oracle. Doesn't Oracle > take up something like 5GB of space? And I think my little Pentium III > pooch would probably die trying to run it. I've got MySQL and Informix, > what else do I really need? you need to switch on your irony detector -- Clive

Please post your suggestions on the Cheetah Beta forum at http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=1071&cat=19 Tool <tool@thetool.com> Sent by: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org 03/15/2007 07:45 AM Please respond to tool@thetool.com To informix-list@iiug.org cc Subject Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III I regret that I don't have any Brittany Spears music in my collection. However, I do think the installation folks need to take a look at the section of the installation where you get to pick your directory for the rootdbs. That's the point where I found the smoke to really help since that's where the installation seemed to fail. Maybe too, if the marketing department would smoke a little we'd see some really good ads. ;-) -t- Jack Parker wrote: > Cool! That's useful! I'm sure the install team will be able to use your > suggestions to provide a less frustrating experience. I'm unsure how > they'll be able to enable you to download Ganja and/or Black Velvet, but I'm > sure that with your expert input they'll get right on it. How were the > Britney Spears tunes? Should those be included in the download? As Mp3s or > wavs? > > j. > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III > > > Jack Parker wrote: >> I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a >> fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a couple of >> minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the process, > I >> want to capture and forward them on. >> >> j. >> > Well Jack, > > First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened to some > music > for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, blew my > last > big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. > > At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring black and > white, > and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE > WASTING YOUR > TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and pushed on. As > I look > back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was > disappointed that > my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, that's > my frustration > at this point, I hope the install team will understand. > > :-) > > Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I think > they've got a > chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the > installation > begins. > > -t- > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= * _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

I don't feel like posting over there. You go ahead and pass along the information since you've already read the thread. Thanks!! -t- Dattatreya Govindappanavar wrote: > > Please post your suggestions on the Cheetah Beta forum at > http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=1071&cat=19 > > > > > *Tool <tool@thetool.com>* > Sent by: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > > 03/15/2007 07:45 AM > Please respond to > tool@thetool.com > > > > To > informix-list@iiug.org > cc > > Subject > Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III > > > > > > > > > I regret that I don't have any Brittany Spears music in my collection. > However, I do think the installation folks need to take a look at the > section of the installation where you get to pick your directory for > the rootdbs. That's the point where I found the smoke to really help > since that's where the installation seemed to fail. Maybe too, if the > marketing department would smoke a little we'd see some really good > ads. ;-) > > -t- > > Jack Parker wrote: > > Cool! That's useful! I'm sure the install team will be able to use your > > suggestions to provide a less frustrating experience. I'm unsure how > > they'll be able to enable you to download Ganja and/or Black Velvet, > but I'm > > sure that with your expert input they'll get right on it. How were the > > Britney Spears tunes? Should those be included in the download? As > Mp3s or > > wavs? > > > > j. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 PM > > To: informix-list@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III > > > > > > Jack Parker wrote: > >> I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I sent a > >> fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a > couple of > >> minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the > process, > > I > >> want to capture and forward them on. > >> > >> j. > >> > > Well Jack, > > > > First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened to some > > music > > for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, > blew my > > last > > big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. > > > > At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring > black and > > white, > > and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE > > WASTING YOUR > > TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and pushed > on. As > > I look > > back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was > > disappointed that > > my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, > that's > > my frustration > > at this point, I hope the install team will understand. > > > > :-) > > > > Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I think > > they've got a > > chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the > > installation > > begins. > > > > -t- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Informix-list mailing list > > Informix-list@iiug.org > > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > > > -- > * > * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= > * > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= *

Tool wrote: > I don't feel like posting over there. > You go ahead and pass along the information since you've already read > the thread. > > Thanks!! Tool, Datta is an IBM employee, but he is not one of the executive types. Having a customer make a complaint/suggestion in the beta forum carries far more weight than having an employee make a complaint/suggestion. Thanks, M.P. > > -t- > > Dattatreya Govindappanavar wrote: >> >> Please post your suggestions on the Cheetah Beta forum at >> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=1071&cat=19 >> >> >> >> >> >> *Tool <tool@thetool.com>* >> Sent by: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org >> >> 03/15/2007 07:45 AM >> Please respond to >> tool@thetool.com >> >> >> >> To >> informix-list@iiug.org >> cc >> >> Subject >> Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I regret that I don't have any Brittany Spears music in my collection. >> However, I do think the installation folks need to take a look at the >> section of the installation where you get to pick your directory for >> the rootdbs. That's the point where I found the smoke to really help >> since that's where the installation seemed to fail. Maybe too, if the >> marketing department would smoke a little we'd see some really good >> ads. ;-) >> >> -t- >> >> Jack Parker wrote: >> > Cool! That's useful! I'm sure the install team will be able to >> use your >> > suggestions to provide a less frustrating experience. I'm unsure how >> > they'll be able to enable you to download Ganja and/or Black >> Velvet, but I'm >> > sure that with your expert input they'll get right on it. How were >> the >> > Britney Spears tunes? Should those be included in the download? >> As Mp3s or >> > wavs? >> > >> > j. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org >> > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 PM >> > To: informix-list@iiug.org >> > Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III >> > >> > >> > Jack Parker wrote: >> >> I had a similar reaction to my first install of 10 on Linux. I >> sent a >> >> fairly stern note which wound up with the install team. Take a >> couple of >> >> minutes and describe in your own words your frustrations with the >> process, >> > I >> >> want to capture and forward them on. >> >> >> >> j. >> >> >> > Well Jack, >> > >> > First I rolled a rather large joint, smoked it, and then listened >> to some >> > music >> > for a while. Then, as I got down to just the roach, I put it out, >> blew my >> > last >> > big breathe of smoke, and typed in ./install_ids. >> > >> > At this point I watched the whole process unfold, it was in boring >> black and >> > white, >> > and it spoke to me. Yes, that's it, I heard God speak, saying YOU'RE >> > WASTING YOUR >> > TIME. But no, I stayed with it, despite heavenly advice, and >> pushed on. As >> > I look >> > back on it, yes, I was disappointed. But not in the install, I was >> > disappointed that >> > my glass of whiskey was dry. Now _that_ was a disappointment. So, >> that's >> > my frustration >> > at this point, I hope the install team will understand. >> > >> > :-) >> > >> > Seriously if they would make the install a bit more intelligent I >> think >> > they've got a >> > chance. It needs to do a little more checking on things before the >> > installation >> > begins. >> > >> > -t- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Informix-list mailing list >> > Informix-list@iiug.org >> > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >> > >> >> -- >> * >> * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= >> * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Informix-list mailing list >> Informix-list@iiug.org >> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list >> >

Madison Pruet wrote: > Tool, > > Datta is an IBM employee, but he is not one of the executive types. > Having a customer make a complaint/suggestion in the beta forum carries > far more weight than having an employee make a complaint/suggestion. > > Thanks, > M.P. > The time it took you to post here, you could have written an email to the right person inside Informix and notified them that the installation has a bug in it at the point where you input your desired path for the rootdbs.

And in the time it took you to blow off Madison's note and blow off the other offers to receive your input, you could have fully described your issues and helped the community. I'm sorry, did you have a point? j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:23 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III Madison Pruet wrote: > Tool, > > Datta is an IBM employee, but he is not one of the executive types. > Having a customer make a complaint/suggestion in the beta forum carries > far more weight than having an employee make a complaint/suggestion. > > Thanks, > M.P. > The time it took you to post here, you could have written an email to the right person inside Informix and notified them that the installation has a bug in it at the point where you input your desired path for the rootdbs. _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

The issue was reported to the Cheetah Beta Forum and will be looked at by IBM. It would appear that they were glad to recieve the input, a small fee for being able to play with the new engine for free before it is officially released. -------- Thank you for taking the time to post this issue. I acknowledge that this is a problem with the installer. As a member of the IDS Install Development Team, I will ensure that we look into it right away. We greatly value your input. Please do not hesitate to post more of your issues or ideas. Regards, Paul-John A. To IBM Software Group Information Management Division --------- Andrew > Madison Pruet wrote: >> Tool, >> >> Datta is an IBM employee, but he is not one of the executive types. >> Having a customer make a complaint/suggestion in the beta forum carries >> far more weight than having an employee make a complaint/suggestion. >> >> Thanks, >> M.P. >> > > The time it took you to post here, you could have written an email to > the right person inside Informix and notified them that the installation > has a bug in it at the point where you input your desired path for the > rootdbs. > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Jack Parker wrote: > And in the time it took you to blow off Madison's note and blow off the > other offers to receive your input, you could have fully described your > issues and helped the community. > > I'm sorry, did you have a point? > > j. > Jack, I'm sensing some hostility here. But more importantly your statement is unfair--which I think is a point to be made. I don't think that I blew off Madison's note, but I'm sorry if you think I did, because I would have done a much better job of it if that was my intent. Now back to the point you seek... I already fully described my issues and helped the community. I don't feel like doing it all over again over at the IBM forum. I also have trouble understanding people that have unlimited access to the internal team telling people to post over at the forum site about an issue with the beta, when lo and behold, they have the information to tell Informix people what the problem is right here. It's not logical to expect me to post in the forum when I've already posted here. And by the way, I got really quick help here that allowed me to get the engine up and running. This forum has just as much value as the IBM forum, the big difference is that IBM can't own a usenet newsgroup, which is probably at the heart of the matter. Forums are important, but not just the ones owned by IBM. IBM people need to think outside the IBM box. In IBM thinking the whole world is insignificant unless it's IBM's idea. Gee I think I saw that somewhere else before! -t-

No, no hostility at all. No time or interest in it. Just trying to point out the time savings we could have all enjoyed if you had offered help to the team that requested it. If that wasn't "blowing off" Madison's note, then I'm not sure what else it could have been. I would respectfully suggest that your description of your issues was not complete enough for an engineering team to work from. Perhaps why we were all treated to an IBM employee popping over to ask for your formal input. I suspect that you could just write Datta and tell him how to recreate your issues without actually posting to the other forum. I am delighted that you got enough information from this group, it has always been very helpful to us all - and to the engineers as well, especially when a problem is described in enough detail that it can be addressed and corrected. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:18 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix IDS Beta on SuSE 10.2 Pentium III Jack Parker wrote: > And in the time it took you to blow off Madison's note and blow off the > other offers to receive your input, you could have fully described your > issues and helped the community. > > I'm sorry, did you have a point? > > j. > Jack, I'm sensing some hostility here. But more importantly your statement is unfair--which I think is a point to be made. I don't think that I blew off Madison's note, but I'm sorry if you think I did, because I would have done a much better job of it if that was my intent. Now back to the point you seek... I already fully described my issues and helped the community. I don't feel like doing it all over again over at the IBM forum. I also have trouble understanding people that have unlimited access to the internal team telling people to post over at the forum site about an issue with the beta, when lo and behold, they have the information to tell Informix people what the problem is right here. It's not logical to expect me to post in the forum when I've already posted here. And by the way, I got really quick help here that allowed me to get the engine up and running. This forum has just as much value as the IBM forum, the big difference is that IBM can't own a usenet newsgroup, which is probably at the heart of the matter. Forums are important, but not just the ones owned by IBM. IBM people need to think outside the IBM box. In IBM thinking the whole world is insignificant unless it's IBM's idea. Gee I think I saw that somewhere else before! -t- _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Tool said: > Madison Pruet wrote: >> Tool, >> >> Datta is an IBM employee, but he is not one of the executive types. >> Having a customer make a complaint/suggestion in the beta forum carries >> far more weight than having an employee make a complaint/suggestion. >> >> Thanks, >> M.P. >> > > The time it took you to post here, you could have written an email to > the right person inside Informix and notified them that the installation > has a bug in it at the point where you input your desired path for the > rootdbs. You don't understand, do you? IBM places no value on input from employees. It only places value on input from customers. I've been amazed that when I've spoken to my "friends in high places" in IBM how little influence they have compared to the lowliest customer. Such as myself. :o) -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.

Tool said: > IBM people need to think outside > the IBM box. In IBM thinking the whole world is insignificant unless > it's IBM's idea. Now that IS a valid point. Unfortunately, blowing Madison off isn't going to change that. Perhaps you could, as a customer, convey that to IBM? :o) -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.