OT was Oracle 10G
I've never subscribed to the view that a degree was essential for any job, and for programming it is often a drawback. It seems to me that to get a degree you have to think like other people, whereas the good programmers think differently to others. But that's just my opinion on a topic that has got so far off topic I think it should not be being discussed here. Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: owner-informix-list@iiug.org [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Data Goob Sent: 09 March 2004 12:49 To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Oracle 10G Interesting. The people we see with the best solutions in our company have either no degree or a degree completely outside of math, or computer science, in the arts, social sciences, or literature. They think completely outside the box, ask all the right questions, and demand systems that work with such glaring common sense as to puzzle the computer science people. These non-computer types typically find the straighest line between two points faster, and challenge the computer people time and again with incredibly great business sense. The computer people tend to succumb to innovation, rarely if ever producing on their own any new ideas. We'll take the artists any day! Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Daniel Morgan wrote: > > >>Neil Truby wrote: >> >> >>>Just in case anyone is reading, I meant to write: " ...even if a >>>graduate is required a degree in maths, physics (such as I have) or >>>even an arts subject will *often* be acceptable." >> >>Correct. Especially math, physics, chemistry, and similar degress that >>demonstrate mental horsepower and a willingness to invest effort into >>intellectual challenges. > > > But not into spelling? > sending to informix-list
malcolm weallans wrote: > I've never subscribed to the view that a degree was essential for any > job, and for programming it is often a drawback. It seems to me that to > get a degree you have to think like other people, whereas the good > programmers think differently to others. > > Malcolm <SARCASM> Which of course makes programming different from physics, chemistry, medicine, law, and numerous other professions. </SARCASM> -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
Daniel Morgan wrote: > malcolm weallans wrote: >> I've never subscribed to the view that a degree was essential for any >> job, and for programming it is often a drawback. It seems to me that to >> get a degree you have to think like other people, whereas the good >> programmers think differently to others. >> >> Malcolm > > <SARCASM> > Which of course makes programming different from physics, chemistry, > medicine, law, and numerous other professions. > </SARCASM> Well, sure. I mean, everyone knows good, streetwise programmers are smarter than any of those... -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ''' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche
Programming IS "different from physics, chemistry, medicine, law, and numerous other professions." But it does share similar environmental components of the above mentioned disciplines, such as working within a grammar to solve complex problems. One could argue business modeling has adopted certain grammars to solve problems. What makes a person a truly great computer programmer or lawyer or chemist is in discovering the boundaries of the box with efficiency enough to become creative outside it. Works for me. Probably why some computer languages are more popular than others. "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1078844213.622086@yasure... > malcolm weallans wrote: > > I've never subscribed to the view that a degree was essential for any > > job, and for programming it is often a drawback. It seems to me that to > > get a degree you have to think like other people, whereas the good > > programmers think differently to others. > > > > Malcolm > > <SARCASM> > Which of course makes programming different from physics, chemistry, > medicine, law, and numerous other professions. > </SARCASM> > > -- > Daniel Morgan > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp > damorgan@x.washington.edu > (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply) >