Re: Oracle and IBM -- Grudge Match
I'm confused and so apparently are you. I made two completely separate statements (though to defend you I did pack it all into one sentence): - IBM has, and is marketing, database appliances based on the Z-series servers running IDS and/or DB2! These were officially announced at the IOD Conference in Las Vegas in October. - IBM has made available both on the IBM cloud computing platform and on the Amazon Cloud, complete runtime environments that you can install with IDS fully installed and operational. If you are talking about a 'Virtual Database Appliance' running IDS, IBM has that one for download also. The IDS Virtual Database Appliance is running IDS on Linux and it contains eval copies several development tools all installed and configured to work with the installed IDS 11.50 engine. As far as FPGAs, I don't understand. I must be missing something or my head's in the wrong universe. What do Field Programmable Gate Arrays have to do with databases or with Amazon for that matter? Art Art S. Kagel Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) IIUG Board of Directors (art@iiug.org) See you at the 2010 IIUG Informix Conference April 25-28, 2010 Overland Park (Kansas City), KS www.iiug.org/conf Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Art, > > I don't believe that Amazon is talking about putting IDS in FPGAs as an > 'appliance'. Different from the cloud, except that they're talking > virtualization. > > But I could be wrong. > > It would be interesting to see a benchmark of IDS on an Appliance. Meaning > that the engine is running on a FPGA which would give killer performance. > > One rumor I heard was that Oracle's Appliance didn't do so well at DW, so > they tweaked it a bit for OLTP instead. > > But it doesn't matter. We'll never see an IDS benchmark. ;-) > > -G > > ------------------------------ > From: art.kagel@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:16:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: Oracle and IBM -- Grudge Match > To: im_gumby@hotmail.com > CC: informix-list@iiug.org > > IDS has been on an appliance and is installable as an option on both the > IBM and the Amazon clouds. The IDS Z-series appliance was announces at the > same time as the DB2 based appliance. > > > Art > > Art S. Kagel > Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com) > IIUG Board of Directors (art@iiug.org) > > See you at the 2010 IIUG Informix Conference > April 25-28, 2010 > Overland Park (Kansas City), KS > www.iiug.org/conf > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any > other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, > or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other > individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those > of the entities themselves. > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@hotmail.com>wrote: > > The real embarassing part is that IDS will smoke them both. Which is why > IBM won't do an IDS benchmark. ;-) > (Aww now the secret is out. IBM doesn't want to start an internal war. ;-) > > Of course Oracle is now on an 'appliance'. DB2? Not there, nor is IDS. > > Maybe Jerry can get IBM to put IDS on the appliance instead of DB2... ;-) > > But hey! What do I know? My head is in the clouds. ;-) > > -G > > > > From: jwcarlson1@yahoo.com.invalid > > Subject: Oracle and IBM -- Grudge Match > > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:24:25 -0500 > > To: informix-list@iiug.org > > > > > Didn't see that anyone posted this in the newsgroup. > > > > > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Data-Storage/IBM-Snaps-Back-with-Response-to-Ellisons-Ignorant-Remarks-about-DB2-758156/ > > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9149883/Database_wars_IBM_Oracle_s_Ellison_trade_zingers > > > > > > Should I not be surprised? (sigh) > > > > JWC > > > _______________________________________________ > > Informix-list mailing list > > Informix-list@iiug.org > > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/>; > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/>; >