RE: Looks Like The Party Is Over In Menlo (2nd try)
Posted in 2000
Topics: Server Administration
I would say Universe is easy to maintain, hands off, and does not require a full time DBA. Would you mind naming some faults? Why are you bashing a good product? What is wrong with sites taking advantage of it? And without a doubt Pick databases are still allowing people to make money. Thanks, Will >===== Original Message From Mike Segel <Postmaster@iiug.iiug.org> ===== >DICK PICK IS DEAD! > >Got it? > >-Uncle Mikey. > >William Rice wrote: > >> I will agree that Ardent's database products are not in vogue, but >> claims about the death of Pick databases have been greatly exaggerated. >> My biggest concern when Informix purchased Ardent was that all focus >> on Ardent products would die. That would not exactly endear the current >> Universe/Unidata users to go to an Informix database. I hope with someone >> from Ardent at the helm, there is a chance that Informix's products >> will be pushed forward, and Informix will be able to still pick up a >> profit from Ardent's customers. Don't get me wrong, marketing is still >> a lost cause, but I still have some hope. >> >> Will ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, as a free service from Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser, Opera. Visit us at http://www.opera.com/ or our portal at: http://www.myopera.com/ Your free e-mail account is waiting at: http://www.operamail.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, Dick Pick is dead, but so are many of the people that created SQL. The only difference I can see is that Dick Pick's name will always be remembered because of the database he created. The Pick database, and it's look-alikes, are by no means dead. Especially since Informix decided to buy Ardent. The Datastage Engine is Universe, it's not going to become something different because Datastage is built on it. It would take more resources than Informix has to design the same thing with another engine and that is why they bought it. As far as comments about Universe/Unidata/Pick not offering ODBC they are wrong. All of these have ODBC and SQL access. Pick was recently bought out and will be going public in soon so I think you should see some new activity in that sector. I worked for a while at a phone company that used Universe as their billing database. They had 13,000 users. I never got a complete listing on the size of the database so I don't know exactly how big it was. They used a Sequent system running Dynix on 14 processors. So I don't think you could say that Universe will only work in small shops. "William Rice" <ricew@operamail.com> wrote in message news:8neba4$lr4$1@news.xmission.com... > > I would say Universe is easy to maintain, hands off, and does not require > a full time DBA. Would you mind naming some faults? > > Why are you bashing a good product? > What is wrong with sites taking advantage of it? > > And without a doubt Pick databases are still allowing people to make money. > > Thanks, > Will > > >===== Original Message From Mike Segel <Postmaster@iiug.iiug.org> ===== > >DICK PICK IS DEAD! > > > >Got it? > > > >-Uncle Mikey. > > > >William Rice wrote: > > > >> I will agree that Ardent's database products are not in vogue, but > >> claims about the death of Pick databases have been greatly exaggerated. > >> My biggest concern when Informix purchased Ardent was that all focus > >> on Ardent products would die. That would not exactly endear the current > >> Universe/Unidata users to go to an Informix database. I hope with someone > >> from Ardent at the helm, there is a chance that Informix's products > >> will be pushed forward, and Informix will be able to still pick up a > >> profit from Ardent's customers. Don't get me wrong, marketing is still > >> a lost cause, but I still have some hope. > >> > >> Will > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, as a free service from > Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser, Opera. Visit us at > http://www.opera.com/ or our portal at: http://www.myopera.com/ Your free e-mail > account is waiting at: http://www.operamail.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >