RE: Looks Like The Party Is Over In Menlo (2nd try)

We had over a 100 boxes with informix on them with automated monitoring software. The systems were not real big, and the applications evolved quite slowly. There were some boxes I logged into maybe four times in my two years with the company. I am in no way commenting on whether or not one should use SE, just addressing the question on a hands off instance of IDS. Will P.S. a lot of time was spent writing the automated monitoring scripts, so this definitely required full time knowledgable DBA's(wish I had been in that category ....), but they were completely hands off. >===== Original Message From "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> ===== >From: "smooth1" <smooth1@iclway.co.uk> >> >>Obnoxio The Clown wrote in message <8n8ddm$8g6$1@news.xmission.com>... >> >> Hence, my backups are corrupt, I can't handle crashes, kill errant >> >> users and I won't know about corruption until someone spots >> >> that the system is producing crap data (if this gets spotted at >>all!). >> >> >> >> SE is out of data in terms of data integrity and should be dropped >> >> in favour of IDS Workgroup Edition. >> > >> >That's all fine and dandy, David, but what about small sites who can't >> >afford a DBA and just want a simple database platform? >> > >> >> Why does online need a DBA? You can >> >> automate start and shutdown >> automate backups with onbar and ISM. > >And you can automate the price difference, too? Is there anybody out there, >please tell me if there is, who has a totally hands off IDS instance? I've >*never* seen one, and I've seen plenty of IDS sites, believe me. > >> If online panics then that is only to stop data corruption. >> >> Are you saying it is ok for your customer to have undetected >> corrupt data? > >Oh, come on, David. > >> Please let me know the names of the customer for whom this is ok >> and I'll pass onto them the good news. > >OK, smarty pants. Now they have an AF. Now what do they do? And how long >will they be down for without an inhouse DBA? > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, as a free service from Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser, Opera. Visit us at http://www.opera.com/ or our portal at: http://www.myopera.com/ Your free e-mail account is waiting at: http://www.operamail.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------