Re: Company thought DB2 will be better than Oracle.
Peter is full of it. Into the kill file "Peter" <peter_and_john2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:396cd6da.0309230557.42d5803c@posting.google.com... > I work for a big financial company and I can understand Larry and you. > To give you the select statement and DB2 release number and platforms > detail will violate my employment agreement. They are moving the > critical DB2/UNIX application to OS/390. > > I have seen it twice once on AIX and second time on LINUX system. > Let us start using DB2 UDB as in-house DBA and you will see yourself > disappearance of DB2 instance. It is not developers fault but > as work around you have to blame development group. > > > > Peter > > > > > "Jim Kennedy" <kennedy-down_with_spammers@no_spam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<aPNbb.548237$YN5.371362@sccrnsc01>... > > "Larry Edelstein" <lsedels@us.ibm.com> wrote in message > > news:3F6F3671.3E92F3D5@us.ibm.com... > > > Peter, > > > > > > I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. > > > > > > No one ever said anything about consultants. When you have a problem ... > > especially a serious one like the one you > > > describe ... you open up a case with IBM and find out what it takes to fix > > it! > > > > > > Peter ... several people on this newsgroup have offered to help get this > > escalated for you ... but you have not > > > provided any additional information. Please don't make it sound like IBM > > has not listened to you or isn't willing to > > > do anything about this. > > > > > > I am very sorry ... but as I said ... I am going to have to assume that > > this didn't really happen. This will be my > > > last post responding to you, unless you can provide some more details > > and/or more information. > > > > > > Larry Edelstein > > > > > > Peter wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Larry! > > > > > > > > There is a difference between in-house DBA and seeing the response of > > every > > > > select Statement on production and being highly paid IBM on-call > > consultant. > > > > No company will contact IBM consultant for db2start. > > > > > > > > I wish you should have taken it like Bill Gates took new Windows release > > crash > > > > in a big conference. He immediately admitted developers have to fix the > > code. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > Larry Edelstein <lsedels@us.ibm.com> wrote in message > > news:<3F6C831C.F45A9D85@us.ibm.com>... > > > > > Peter ... I have worked with many customers for more than two years > > who have never experienced this problem. > > > > > > > > > > You are still not providing any specifics or details on this. What are > > you afraid of? At this point, I must > > > > > assume that this never happened. I'm sorry. It doesn't take much to > > provide evidence. > > > > > > > > > > Larry Edelstein > > > > > > > > > > Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Larry! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding your comment on continue to trash DB2, I wish you should > > not > > > > > > take it in negative way. I find same problem in DB2 as in OS/2. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have worked on OS/2 and technically it is far superior than > > Microsoft > > > > > > Windows. It did have same issue of all of sudden crashed problem > > that was > > > > > > resolved in few years. Unfortunately MS already had the market > > before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you find my info is incorrect, I am just asking you to work on > > one > > > > > > install of DB2 for 2 years. You will see instance disappearance and > > when > > > > > > you type db2start; it starts as if nothing has happened. It simply > > forgets > > > > > > and forgives it. I have never seen database starting like that and > > forgetting > > > > > > why it crashed all of sudden in production. It is good and bad both. > > As > > > > > > a DBA you have to start instance again only and blame poor > > developers > > > > > > for wrong SQL statements. Poor guy only did select on a table with > > > > > > a simple where clause. I have been asked to give query details; > > there is > > > > > > nothing in the query other than select on one table with one > > condition > > > > > > on where clause. Simply blame the DB2 developers as a workaround. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > "Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote in message > > news:<bkhah6$1qke9$1@ID-162943.news.uni-berlin.de>... > > > > > > > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:1064018434.923612@yasure... > > > > > > > > Larry Edelstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is this really going to change anyone's mind? Do you really > > believe what > > > > > > > > someone uses as a reference platform is going to make the CFO of > > a > > > > > > > > company write a big check? Change their infrastructure? Migrate > > their > > > > > > > > existing applications? Get a major university to start offering > > courses? > > > > > > > > Maybe they use it as a reference platform because they were cut > > a > > > > > > > > sweetheart deal? How can anyone possibly know what decision was > > made on > > > > > > > > the 17th hole after a few martinis and a pair of tickets to the > > World > > > > > > > > Series or the SuperBowl? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How terribly cynical of you, Daniel! > > > > > > > Larry, > > While Peter's problem might be a canard(probably is), maybe he does not > > understand what you mean. > > > > Peter, > > What Larry is trying to say is that you need to provide more information. > > If you went to a medical Dr and said I have pain and did not give any > > further information, such as location, then the Dr. would not be able to do > > much for you. So can you tell us what select statement crashes DB2 in your > > environment. Could you also tell us what Operating System DB2 is running on > > and if possible the version of DB2? What would be very nice is what steps > > you have to perform to cause this crash. If you can't even tell us these > > things then it calls into question your integrity. > > Jim