Re: These crazy emails about IDS to DB2 conversion

If it had 'DB2' in the name I wouldn't go near it, even if it was really Informix. I for one am sick of seeing DB2 mentioned on this group. If Informix is merged into DB2, and the becomes no longer available in its curent form, AND NAME, I'll be moving to MSSQL for windows, and Mysql for Unix. Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candy McCall" <candym@olcinc.com> To: "Informix List" <informix-list@iiug.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:29 AM Subject: Re: These crazy emails about IDS to DB2 conversion > Rename IDS to DB2. > Rename Informix-SE to DB2-Lite > :-) > > > > > > What should IBM do? > > > > In my humble opinion? Promote Informix as a product in its own right. > > Ignore the analysts. Try to sell it to new customers. Destroy the > > impression that its actions are giving that Informix is dead. And not just > > because I want Informix to be preserved (although I do). But because they > > are haemoragging customers to the competition. Informix users are showing > > by deed and in their droves that they do not want to migrate to DB2. > > > > > sending to informix-list > sending to informix-list sending to informix-list

Rodney Sheppard wrote: > If it had 'DB2' in the name I wouldn't go near it, even if it was > really Informix. > I for one am sick of seeing DB2 mentioned on this group. > If Informix is merged into DB2, and the becomes no longer > available in its curent form, AND NAME, I'll be moving to > MSSQL for windows, and Mysql for Unix. What a petulant and childish attitude. I second the motion! :o) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Candy McCall" <candym@olcinc.com> > >> Rename IDS to DB2. >> Rename Informix-SE to DB2-Lite >> :-) >> >> > >> > > What should IBM do? >> > >> > In my humble opinion? Promote Informix as a product in its own right. >> > Ignore the analysts. Try to sell it to new customers. Destroy the >> > impression that its actions are giving that Informix is dead. And not > just >> > because I want Informix to be preserved (although I do). But because > they >> > are haemoragging customers to the competition. Informix users are > showing >> > by deed and in their droves that they do not want to migrate to DB2. -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche

The marketplace has a wonderful way of changing peoples minds. Is IBM willing to talk about NEW Informix customers? I heard something awhile back that there are some new Informix customers but haven't heard anything lately. The savage comments about DB2 like the one below are a clear indicator that many people simply haven't looked at anything else besides their beloved Informix. Wait till you get in a position to hire people to support various database products, you might learn some things about what managers are looking for vs a bunch of angry techies. Go look at the college grads today, this years' crop, and see what you have to work with, you'll find out quickly what I'm talking about. By the way, just in reading some of the feature requests people are looking for, it does put some chinks in the Informix armor. Some of those requested features are already available in competing products. DB2 doesn't look that bad in the final analysis even with some of the "superior" features of Informix. Maybe some of that "superiority" isn't. Tim "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0a6v6$13ljdn$2@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > Rodney Sheppard wrote: > > > If it had 'DB2' in the name I wouldn't go near it, even if it was > > really Informix. > > I for one am sick of seeing DB2 mentioned on this group. > > If Informix is merged into DB2, and the becomes no longer > > available in its curent form, AND NAME, I'll be moving to > > MSSQL for windows, and Mysql for Unix. > > What a petulant and childish attitude. I second the motion! :o) >

Tim Schaefer wrote: > The marketplace has a wonderful way of changing peoples minds. In Amurrica, maybe. Not here in the real world. :o) > Is IBM willing to talk about NEW Informix customers? I heard > something awhile back that there are some new Informix customers > but haven't heard anything lately. The savage comments about > DB2 like the one below are a clear indicator that many people > simply haven't looked at anything else besides their beloved > Informix. Wait till you get in a position to hire people to > support various database products, you might learn some things > about what managers are looking for vs a bunch of angry techies. > Go look at the college grads today, this years' crop, and see > what you have to work with, you'll find out quickly what I'm > talking about. > > By the way, just in reading some of the feature requests people > are looking for, it does put some chinks in the Informix armor. > Some of those requested features are already available in competing > products. DB2 doesn't look that bad in the final analysis even > with some of the "superior" features of Informix. Maybe some of > that "superiority" isn't. > > "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:c0a6v6$13ljdn$2@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... >> Rodney Sheppard wrote: >> >> > If it had 'DB2' in the name I wouldn't go near it, even if it was >> > really Informix. >> > I for one am sick of seeing DB2 mentioned on this group. >> > If Informix is merged into DB2, and the becomes no longer >> > available in its curent form, AND NAME, I'll be moving to >> > MSSQL for windows, and Mysql for Unix. >> >> What a petulant and childish attitude. I second the motion! :o) -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche

Hmmmm. I'm sensing some jealousy... Informix came from 'merica, then DB2, looks like in the long-run you'll continue to just take it. Same for Linux, which came from UNIX, which came from 'merica. :o) I just get teary eyed at the thought of how great my country is! Excuse me now I have to go to work without wearing a coat today, it's so nice and warm here in FLORIDA EAT YOUR HEART OUT CLOWN. LOL "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0al6a$13r3bm$1@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > Tim Schaefer wrote: > > > The marketplace has a wonderful way of changing peoples minds. > > In Amurrica, maybe. Not here in the real world. :o) > > > Is IBM willing to talk about NEW Informix customers? I heard > > something awhile back that there are some new Informix customers > > but haven't heard anything lately. The savage comments about > > DB2 like the one below are a clear indicator that many people > > simply haven't looked at anything else besides their beloved > > Informix. Wait till you get in a position to hire people to > > support various database products, you might learn some things > > about what managers are looking for vs a bunch of angry techies. > > Go look at the college grads today, this years' crop, and see > > what you have to work with, you'll find out quickly what I'm > > talking about. > > > > By the way, just in reading some of the feature requests people > > are looking for, it does put some chinks in the Informix armor. > > Some of those requested features are already available in competing > > products. DB2 doesn't look that bad in the final analysis even > > with some of the "superior" features of Informix. Maybe some of > > that "superiority" isn't. > > > > "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:c0a6v6$13ljdn$2@ID-64669.news.uni-berlin.de... > >> Rodney Sheppard wrote: > >> > >> > If it had 'DB2' in the name I wouldn't go near it, even if it was > >> > really Informix. > >> > I for one am sick of seeing DB2 mentioned on this group. > >> > If Informix is merged into DB2, and the becomes no longer > >> > available in its curent form, AND NAME, I'll be moving to > >> > MSSQL for windows, and Mysql for Unix. > >> > >> What a petulant and childish attitude. I second the motion! :o) > > -- > "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" > - Coluche