Re: Webcast - Rapid Data Warehouse Development - Build a Pilot in 8 weeks!
Gumby, Good quote thanks 'One man's garbage is another man's treasure.' I will use it today in the webcast. I have a great image of a junk yard to go with it;) Regards - Lester Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > For some reason, Windows 7 barf'd on my post. (And I know OTC will have > some smart comment. :-P ) > > Just in case the post went out, I'll only respond with a very short comment. > > Lester, here's a quote you can attribute to moi.... > > "...Remember that there is this saying ... 'One man's garbage is another > man's treasure.' If you think real hard, you might understand why Google > is so dangerous..." > > -G > > > > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:08:06 -0500 > > From: lester@iiug.org > > To: im_gumby@hotmail.com > > CC: obnoxio@serendipita.com; informix-list@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: Webcast - Rapid Data Warehouse Development - Build a > Pilot in 8 weeks! > > > > Gumby, > > > > You are still missing the point, having a couple of petabytes of data > on fast hardware and software does not make a data warehouse. Most of > the time it ends up being a data junk yard. > > > > The point is how do you quickly design and build something so users > can gain insight into their data and make meaningful decisions. > > > > Regards - Lester > > > > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > Well... > > > Glad you asked. :-) > > > > > > You can use all of the above, or none of above. (Ok, really below, but > > > you know what I meant.) > > > > > > You can write a map/reduce, or series of map/reduce(s) and output to a > > > flat file, or even to a relational database. > > > > > > Then there's pig, but I haven't had time to play with it yet. And > > > there's now a JDBC conectivity, which I haven't have time to play with > > > yet, either. > > > > > > The point is that you can build data warehouses, data marts, etc to > > > handle large amounts of data fairly quickly using non traditional > means. > > > > > > Now I do see issues with Hadoop, but I think that over time, it > will get > > > better. > > > > > > Don't take my word for it, Accenture has already started their own > cloud > > > computing practice. Sun's released their vision and well, then there's > > > IBM.... > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > -G > > > > > > PS. Here's some food for thought... Back in the 90's Informix's XPS > had > > > customers who created 27TB data warehouses. If we rely on Moore's law, > > > that database would probably be comparable to one of ~2.7 > petabytes. ;-) > > > Can DB2 do that? > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:29:25 +0000 > > > > From: obnoxio@serendipita.com > > > > CC: informix-list@iiug.org > > > > Subject: Re: Webcast - Rapid Data Warehouse Development - Build a > > > Pilot in 8 weeks! > > > > > > > > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > > > But I can build a cluster of Hadoop/HBase machines and set up a > DW in > > > > > less than 8 days! (Ok, assuming that the machines are already > built > > > and > > > > > are already networked...) > > > > > > > > And I can do that in half a day. So fucking what? > > > > > > > > And once you have those servers up and running, what are you going to > > > > use to query them? Cognos? Brio? Business Objects? Crystal Reports? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > Obnoxio The Clown > > > > > > > > http://obotheclown.blogspot.com > > > > I will now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is > > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Informix-list mailing list > > > > Informix-list@iiug.org > > > > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. 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