RE: quiet mode for dbaccess?
Posted in 1998
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Marco Antonio Muci=F1o Z=FA=F1iga wrote:
> Uncivilized \\Un*civ"i*lized\\, a.
> 1. Not civilized; not reclaimed from savage life; rude;
> barbarous; savage; as, the uncivilized inhabitants of
> Central Africa.
> =20
> 2. Not civil; coarse; clownish. [R.] --Addison.
>=20
> One more time, what do you men?
I mean that using C shell is not civilized, not reclaimed from the savage
life, rude, barbarous, savage; as in "the C shell provides an uncivilized
language with petty constraints and the inability to do i/o redirection
with the same generality that the Bourne/Korn shell family of languages
provides".
How much clearer could I be? Did you read the 'C Shell Programming
Considered Harmful' document I sent you previously? If so, you know why I
consider C Shell uncivilized. If not, why not? Just for good measure, I'm
sending it again, mainly because I am also sending this reply to the
comp.databases.informix news group -- you intended your message to go there
too, but the email address is informix-list@iiug.org, not at iiur.org.
I am not going to respond to this again -- the subject is closed. You
don't have to agree with me that the C Shell is uncivilized. However, I
retain the right to hold to my view that it is uncivilized, and to express
this view when the occasion arises.
Yours,
Jonathan Leffler (jleffler@informix.com) #include <witticism.h>
Guardian of DBD::Informix v0.60 -- http://www.perl.com/CPAN
Informix IDN for D4GL & Linux -- http://www.informix.com/idn
-- Yesterday's email response --
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Leffler <jleffler@informix.com>
To: Marco_Antonio_Muci=F1o_Z=FA=F1iga <cycsainf@mex1.uninet.net.mx>
Subject: RE: quiet mode for dbaccess?
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Marco Antonio Muci=F1o Z=FA=F1iga wrote:
> What do you mean with "use a civilized shell" and "(probably) not C shell=
"?
I mean that C shell is uncivilized.
Yours,
Jonathan Leffler (jleffler@informix.com) #include <witticism.h>
Guardian of DBD::Informix v0.60 -- http://www.perl.com/CPAN
Informix IDN for D4GL & Linux -- http://www.informix.com/idn
From: tchrist@cs.Colorado.EDU (Tom Christiansen)
Subject: Csh Programming Considered Harmful
Date: 11 Aug 93 03:00:23 GMT
Archive-name: unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot
Version: $Id: csh-faq,v 1.4 93/08/10 20:58:22 tchrist Exp Locker: tchrist $
The following periodic article answers in excruciating detail
the frequently asked question "Why shouldn't I program in csh?".
It is available for anon FTP from convex.com in /pub/csh.whynot .
=09 *** CSH PROGRAMMING CONSIDERED HARMFUL ***
Resolved: The csh is a tool utterly inadequate for programming,
=09 and its use for such purposes should be strictly banned!
I am continually shocked and dismayed to see people write test cases,
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