Informix 4.5 manuals/doc?
A poster asked where to find manuals for an "Informix 4.5" database after his company hit a production problem on it. Several veterans (Kagel, Leffler, others) replied that no Informix product was ever released as 4.5, and walked through the actual version history of the pre-SQL Informix (to 3.30), ISQL/I4GL, SE and OnLine (4.00/4.10, then 5.x onwards), asking him to identify the product properly; version 5 docs are on IBM's site, but 4.x manuals are essentially unobtainable online. He later reported the engine was in fact Informix SE 7.3 (his original info was wrong), though one reply noted no such SE release existed either. No documentation source or fix for the underlying production issue is recorded.
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Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some group in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 database. Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? Much appreciated. Thanks, Will
WILL LANDSTROM said: > Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some > group > in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 > database. > Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? Much > appreciated. Thanks, Will I've never heard of it. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
WILL LANDSTROM wrote: > Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some group > in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 database. > Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? Much > appreciated. Thanks, Will > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. Art S. Kagel
Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > WILL LANDSTROM wrote: >> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some > group >> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 >> database. >> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? >> Much >> appreciated. Thanks, Will >> > > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online > release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. > Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the > engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo > process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation > for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post > the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I thought ended at release 3.3. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Hi, I remember an Informix Turbo 4.0. Could it be that release ? What exactly is the problem (was really unstable, as far as I remember ...) ? Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Obnoxio The Clown [mailto:obnoxio@serendipita.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:47 PM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10584] Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > WILL LANDSTROM wrote: >> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. >> Some > group >> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 >> database. >> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? >> Much >> appreciated. Thanks, Will >> > > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online > release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. > Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the > engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo > process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation > for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post > the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I thought ended at release 3.3. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. ************************************************************************ ******* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > >> WILL LANDSTROM wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some >>> >> group >> >>> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 >>> database. >>> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? >>> Much >>> appreciated. Thanks, Will >>> >>> >> I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online >> release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. >> Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the >> engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo >> process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation >> for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post >> the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. >> > > I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a > 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I > thought ended at release 3.3. > CISAM then?? Art S. Kagel
I worked with versions 4.00, 4.10 and 4.11 YEARS AGO, but do not remember a 4.5. As I remember it, 5.00-5.03 added triggers, stored procedures (and ISTAR?). Bob Roussey Unix / Informix Administration Spirit Airlines Robert.Roussey@SpiritAir.com -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Obnoxio The Clown Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:47 AM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10584] Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > WILL LANDSTROM wrote: >> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some > group >> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 >> database. >> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? >> Much >> appreciated. Thanks, Will >> > > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online > release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. > Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the > engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo > process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation > for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post > the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I thought ended at release 3.3. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. ************************************************************************ ******* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > CISAM then?? Nope. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
maybe an ancient Informix Wingz? Joerg ________________________________ Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org im Auftrag von Obnoxio The Clown Gesendet: Di 04.12.2007 18:28 An: ids@iiug.org Betreff: Re: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10588] Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > CISAM then?? Nope. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com <http://www.openprotect.com/>; ), and is believed to be clean. ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
The old pre-ISQL (Informer?) product ended at 3.3. I recall converting dozens and dozens of ACE reports 20 years ago... -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Obnoxio The Clown Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:47 AM To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10584] Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > WILL LANDSTROM wrote: >> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. >> Some > group >> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 >> database. >> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? >> Much >> appreciated. Thanks, Will >> > > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online > release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. > Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the > engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo > process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation > for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might post > the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who bites. I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I thought ended at release 3.3. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo "Cluster in my trousers" -- Guy Bowerman -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. ************************************************************************ ******* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
I think that I still have some hard copies lying around, but no soft copies. > To: ids@iiug.org > From: KMASSNER@mgmmirage.com > Subject: RE: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10591] > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:41:09 -0500 > > The old pre-ISQL (Informer?) product ended at 3.3. I recall converting > dozens and dozens of ACE reports 20 years ago... > > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of > Obnoxio The Clown > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:47 AM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Informix 4.5 manuals/doc? [10584] > > Art S. Kagel (Oninit LLC) said: > > WILL LANDSTROM wrote: > >> Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. > >> Some > > group > >> in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 > >> database. > >> Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? > > >> Much > >> appreciated. Thanks, Will > >> > > > > I don't remember there ever being an Online v4.5. The last 4.xx Online > > > release was 4.01 which was very quickly followed by Online 5.00. > > Perhaps this is an SE instance? What process is started up for the > > engine if any? Is there a tbinit process? An sqlexec or sqlturbo > > process? If it's SE not much has changed and the current documentation > > > for SE 7.xx will give you what you might need. Otherwise you might > post > > the nature of the problem here or on the classics forum and see who > bites. > > I don't think there was ever a version 4.5 SE, either. Nor do I recall a > > 4.5 release of 4GL, nor the old pre-ISQL/SE Informix product, which I > thought ended at release 3.3. > > -- > Bye now, > Obnoxio > > "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." > -- Cosmo > > "Cluster in my trousers" > -- Guy Bowerman > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is > believed to be clean. > > ************************************************************************ > ******* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >
On Dec 4, 2007 8:22 AM, WILL LANDSTROM <willlandstrom@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello everyone. I did poke around here a bit but did find anything. Some group > in my company is having a prod issue with an ancient informix 4.5 database. > Does anyone know where I can find manuals on 4.5? Or any usefull doc? Much > appreciated. Thanks, Will Just as with everyone else, I don't recall a version 4.5 of anything produced by Informix. The pre-SQL product (called just Informix) ran up to 3.30. ISQL started at 1.10, went to 2.00, 2.10, 2.10.03 and then jumped to 4.00. I4GL started at 1.00 alongside ISQL 2.00; then 1.10, 1.10.03, and then 4.00. ESQL/C was at version 2.10 when ISQL was at 1.10, I believe (but would accept correction). And so on. Within the 4.x versions, OnLine (not Turbo any more) and SE had versions 4.00 and 4.10 -- maybe 4.11 and 4.12 as well, but no further. ISQL and I4GL went 4.00, 4.10 to 4.16. OnLine and SE jumped to 5.00 through 5.08, then 5.10, 5.11, and 5.20. OnLine become OnLine Dynamic Server, then Informix Dynamic Server and so on, starting with 6.00, 7.00, 7.10..7.14, 7.20..7.24, 7.30, 7.31, 8.00..8.5x (XPS), and 9.00 onwards. ISQL and I4GL had versions 6.00 through 6.05 (parallel to 4.12 .. 4.16 - I don't think there was a 4.17), then went to 7.20, 7.30, 7.31, 7.32. So, please can you identify your Informix product a little more carefully. Or did you mean version 4 or version 5? If so, the version 5 manuals are still available from the IBM web site (easiest route is normally www.informix.com, but that has been a little unstable of late - so maybe www.ibm.com/software/data/informix/library). For version 4.x manuals, you're scraping the barrel looking for them online -- the web was barely invented when they were released. -- Jonathan Leffler #include <disclaimer.h> Email: jleffler@earthlink.net, jleffler@us.ibm.com Guardian of DBD::Informix v2007.0914 -- http://dbi.perl.org/ NB: Please do not use this email for correspondence. I don't necessarily read it every week, even.
Hi everyone. Sorry for the poor question. I found out that the informix engine was informix SE 7.3 I had been given bogus info. Thanks for the responses.
WILL LANDSTROM wrote: > Hi everyone. Sorry for the poor question. I found out that the informix engine > was informix SE 7.3 I had been given bogus info. Thanks for the responses. > > There was no SE 7.3 either. :o) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.